jared hudson

@AL unfortunately that link is dead. im afraid others coming to the page to read will find it a confusing point. im not even 100% if both youtube links(mine and yours) are to the same guy. just cause i cant visually verify.

you say you saw less damage than expected. i saw alot of crap that looked kinda like it would still burn. ive seen some permie native videos with muuuuch less waste.--- obviously this is some back to the basics stuff here. the geometry the of combustion chamber. with fire brick, more insulation and a 6" diameter chamber how tall should it be? once i know that ill feel more confident with trying to find what type of insulation. im leaning towards something like Kast-O-lite 26 kiln insulation. i can mold lines into it and its rated for up to like 2600 degrees and says it has an insulating value of 4.0 btu-in/hr-F-ft^2. now i only have some idea what that means but im hoping the r value is equal to or better than what you guys are used to using.

for the record the placing of heat exchanging and transferring lines will be decided somewhere around last. im just eating as much information as possible to make some informed decisions.

@Allen thanks for quoting an edited version of my post. i must be crazy but i cannot find the edit button and am sorta steamy about that i feel like its taking away from the OP. its like i can only edit my last post or reply. ive never been much of a forum goer i have a lot to learn about your ways.

thank you for the information. I have some time right now and am going to read into it.

Tom OHern wrote:Hi Jared,

I love the enthusiasm! A word of caution though. Many people set out with grand ideas of improving the rocket mass heater concept by adding in all sorts of functionality, or making it work in a situation where it never has been done before. Now, I am not saying that this is impossible, but if you've never built a RMH before, there is a steep learning curve to be had. The general advice is to build at least one standards RMH before you start out on trying to improve the design. There are a whole lot of very experienced people who are trying to do the same things you are thinking about, but they al started with the standard design first so that they could get a grasp on the subtleties of the system.

In fact, based on the description of your space, it sounds like a standard RMH would do great. No modifications needed! Is there a particular thing that you think is missing from the system that you need or something that you don't think a standard RMH will do for you?

dont worry, lol. im not trying to reinvent the wheel just yet. step one, if this type of design can be made to work properly over the internet id like to build something like this to use as my foundation to build off of.

This is a youtube video of a fella named Robert J.H. Gisolf showing his auto cad design for his rocket stove. i like how its upright it will take up less floor space and the tall riser will be good to add in a linseed or olive oil line for heat transfer for storage in water and or to use as a heat siphon for forces air heating. but all that jazz math and science can come at a later date. for now i just need help making decisions on a base rocket stove high heart source.

jared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVoJ14qMvPs

Reserved for diagrams and chosen materials/steps aswell as some Q&A.

Q&A- please copy Q and paste before your answer as one reply so i can edit and add to answered Q&A section efficiently.

-have you experimented with flame sizes?
-does the size and volume of the combustion chamber matter if you can get it hot enough to burn properly? (ie like 6" being the best known)
-how hot does the actual combustion chamber get to burn up the gases? (im thinking specific materials and their melting/boiling points)

i get paid in 9 days and will by then have challenged the community and hopefully with you guys have dreamed up and designed a small multipurpose heater. the way i plan to achieve this is by doing my own research and using this post as a journal with discussion. what i ask of you is your experience. i especially need help in being aware of every single safety curve we could ever find.

we have an 1100 sq ft home with 4 main rooms(mobile home on newly purchased land with intentions of later building a wofati type home). heart of home is a great room type setup with living room and kitchen open to each other both in the middle of the house. rocket stove will be off center in the kitchen on a table next to the window. cant pay for gas lines and last year our electricity heating bumped our bill up on average about 600%. id rather save money on not buying a new hog furnace and bills to pay for the wofati.

here we go:

Small Rocket Stove Mass Heater Wonder Machine -next ill be imagining everything i know of a RS and take an outside in deductive approach, i think?

**1100 sq ft home with 4 main rooms(mobile home on newly purchased land with intentions of later building a wofati type home). heart of home is a great room type setup with living room and kitchen open to each other both in the middle of the house. rocket stove will be off center in the kitchen on a table next to the window. cant pay for gas lines and last year our electricity heating bumped our bill up on average about 600%

-table top and hoping to take up no more than 20 sq. ft
-window vented
--outside air intake ideas.
---how does the air move in the combustion chamber. if is tornado like what would a stream of fresh cold air would do
-multipurpose for heating water as an on demand water heater
-what holds the most heat longest in the smallest space, lol. i wonder about min or max sq size of said material.
- if 6" round pipe is best is that because the flame does rotate like a tornado? id prefer to build heat transfer and storage around the best RS combustion possible.
-heat storage and transfer will be one unit. i can build this to be any shape or size needed.
//ADD more as we evolve the discussion

imagine a tubular mold of super insulating materiel with veins( geothermal ideas here ) molded around the combustion chamber. secondary heat intake veins will be the exhaust split to anything from 6 1/6 pipes of proper exhaust diameter or 12 1/12( like 12 half inch or 16 qtr inch pipes split off from 6 inch combustion chamber ) immediately after the proper rocket stove process coursing through the insulating material with a hot water line buddy'd to it in hopes to take as little heat from the insulating material as possible.

-must account for all the added friction to the air flow. like for 12 splits having a 13th to make up for the extra drag in the 12
-what if i used a small fan in the intake(and or exhaust) one step before the initial combustion to avoid kickbacks of smoke and move the air and gases through the system smoothly. can math out optimals from positive or negative air pressure inside the system.

end journal work session thank you guys for reading i hope this gets your gears going. if you have any wisdom to give or ideas pleas join in on project!

jared