Maureen Atsali

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Recent posts by Maureen Atsali

That's it R Jay.  I am thankful that I was able to learn as much as I did when I lived in the village, and now my kids and I enjoy a wide variety of healthful, easy to grow food.  Can't force anything on any one.  At least people aren't as likely to steal my indigenous goodies and even the chickens aren't so thrilled with them 😁. But I keep hoping it will catch on. (With people, not the chickens.)
1 month ago
I learned about indigenous African foods only when all of my american imports failed to grow.  All of my squash succumbed to mildew and insects, but I noticed that my elderly neighbor had indigenoud mystery squash growing abundantly on her fence.  I had to mine those seeds and that knowledge from the elders in the village.  Changing over to indigenous food crops transformed the farm into a productive successful project.  There are still half a dozen things I dont have an English name for.  Some studies done in Nairobi a few years ago showed that only 17% of urban Kenyans ate indigenous greens, and the main reasons were availability and not knowing how to prepare them.  (And of that 17% the most common greens eaten were cowpeas and pumpkin leaves, not much variety there.). In my experience in rural areas it has been more than lack of knowledge but a strong prejudice against those foods which are regarded as poverty foods or "old peoples food.".  They are insulted if you serve it to them.  I had an american friend who was staying with a Kenyan man, and I offered to bring her " omurere" (Jews mallow) to try.  Her man friend turned to my husband and said (in Luhya, not knowing I understood.) "I dont want that sh*t in my house.". And that man friend was overweight and suffered from bleeding ulcers thanks to his rich, western diet. 

I have no idea how to overcome that mind set.  Just this week I had to chase a local lady out of my garden who thought she was doing me a favor by "weeding" out all of the amaranth between the rows.  She was incredulous that I had scattered that seed there on purpose.  And this was a poor lady in her sixties who surely knew that "mchicha" was a nutritious veggie.  She also didn't like my system of growing between the rows. She complained that it was messy and unsightly.  She is planting collards on her side, with fertilizers and insecticides.
1 month ago
"Tend to the part of the garden you can reach.". Its good to be sensitive to the fact that there are starving children in Yemen, but that's out of reach for most of us.  Instead of philosophical discussion about " world hunger" I would love to see permies all over the world addressing local hunger in their corner of the world garden...
1 month ago
Sometimes its hard to read these posts.  I live in the third world, and let me assure you that any time there is instability, people do NOT run to help each other here.  It takes very little to break civilization when you are already on edge.  And people DO immediately default into rioting, looting and murder here.

Also let me say that people are already suffering in many parts of the world, right now.  I do home care visits, and was out the day before yesterday to see a woman with spinal TB who lives in a 10x10 mud room in a squatters slum behind a cemetery.  She shares that house with about 8 kids and grandkids.  The only food she had were a few packages of enriched porridge flour given out by the government at the TB clinic, but she had no way to cook it.   She used to earn money washing laundry for others, but now her spine has collapsed and she is barely mobile.  She has no money to buy food or charcoal or firewood, or water.  She was burning her plastic jerricans to cook, but eventually ran out of plastic too.  Pictures from Friday, not 1933.
1 month ago
That sounds like a fantastic project, I love it.  I wouldn't have survived without art as a child.
1 month ago
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Haha Dale. You crack me up.  Note I mentioned in my original post that the Masai have gone to the standard western diet.  I went to the city park yesterday in Kakamega.  While relaxing 5 masai men came and sat in a semi-circle about 5 feet away from me, aparently fascinated by my daughter.  They were all close to six foot, but yes rather scrawny.  How many generations of eating sh*t does it take to ruin your genetic heritage?

Given you were at a tourist sight, i would question if your entertainers were really Masai or just some random actors?  The few Masai I know here come for work and usually work as security guards...or sell beaded sandals while they walk around in shoes made from recycled tires.  And they eat ugali like everyone else.

Luo's eat a lot of fish, so perhaps that explains their robustness.  Although my first friend in Kenya was a 6 foot 1 inch Luo man who was so skinny you could practically see through him.  Lots of variation I guess.

And as long as I am posting i should add that day 1 of carivory has been rough.   I went into the slums to do a home visit, and I almost fainted... Which would have been really bad because there was no vehicular access to this particular squatters slum.  I'm not really sure the cause.  They were cooking over charcoal indoors in a tiny mud room with no windows, and it was like an oven in there... So carbon monoxide? Or hypoglycemia? Or anemia on my part?  I had an orange in my back pack and I sucked that down to make sure I could get out of there on my own two feet.  I made it home, but I still feel tired and weak.  Impending malaria is also a possibility.  So i ate an orange.  I dont intend to eat anything else non-animal today.  But oh well, try again tomorrow.
1 month ago
All these studies that say low carbers and meat-eaters will die early have already been dismissed as incomplete and unscientific.  I am much more afraid of dying from diabetic complications than I am of dying from eating a clean low carb or carnivorous diet.

Having said that, I am trying again to zero carb, attempting to make it over that three day hump.  I am desperate to feel better.
1 month ago
Just for the sake of argument, I'd like to point out that there are tropical cultures that are carnivorous.  Here in Kenya its the Masai.  I remember seeing some documentaries about Amazonian tribes as well.  Its interesting to see the difference in body structure between the Masai and my husband's luhya tribe.  Although the masai are now being forced into a Western diet, they are still about a foot taller than the average luhya and they have much better jaw and teeth structure.  The luhya were traditionally agrarian.  They are shorter and have smaller jaws with crowded, often crooked teeth.

How have you (speaking to the carnivore folks on this thread) deal with food addictions... I can't seem to make it over that hump.  I have a long history of disordered eating, so I seem to hit a psychological  barrier about 3 days in, where I feel panicky.  My health has really gone down hill since I left the farm and moved to town... I need to get a handle on my diet or I think I'm headed for big trouble.
1 month ago
I second what everyone else said.  I rarely do anything special, just throw them right in the pot when making soup or stew.  Or if doing BBQ, I'll scewer them and put them on the grill.  Really nice flavor.  Here in Luhya Land, the gizzard is usually for the man of the house.  So i claimed the heart and liver and proclaimed them the woman's parts.  The liver of a pasture raised chicken is my favorite!
1 month ago