Thanks for the lead, and for the review. I took some Permaculture workshops at Ecoversity in Santa Fe years ago, then spent years having to relocate regularly due to elder care situations. Now looking at getting back onto a piece of land other than a rental somewhere and starting over, so resources like this are much appreciated! I have always kept a few animals, but they all become family members, including the sheep and the llama (for spinning & weaving), and the heavy emphasis on "animal products" always made me uncomfortable --- plus I wondered if it was even possible to cultivate a Permaculture landscape without that.