Jimmy Manning

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...I have 1 or 2 of the finished product I'll put up later. I used old small bamboo stakes around the pipe ends in order to prevent dirt from backfilling into the trench and the pipe. I have wood chips coming for the footpaths and the footpath into the backyard will go right over the pipe.

Where the split is in the rock channel there will be a small pond that I will allow to flow over into the channel too.
9 years ago
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9 years ago
Finally started some actual work today.

I don't have gutters on my house. I capture rain at the valleys of the house with one rain barrel right now and will be adding 5 more eventually. Since I don't have and don't want to pay for gutters, I lose water at the dripline. I thought I could maybe channel that water somewhere, as well as let the channel serve as a way to preserve any overflow from the rain barrels. You can see what I drew up in the plans.

I spent 50 bucks today and managed to start the channel on one side, I ran a pipe under the walkway and have the channel dump out into a swale/mound that I'm going to plant with blueberrries. I added 1 blueberry bush, some society garlic, rosemary, and jasmine groundcover.



9 years ago
Thanks alot Duane, I'll check that video out. My computer is acting up at the moment and allergic to videos.

I was thinking about next steps today. I could work on fixing the deficiencies by planting legumes everywhere but I'm afraid any nutrients gained are just going to leach out quickly. Until I can provide some humus to hold the nutrients I'm guessing it'll be an uphill battle.

But I guess if I'm doing chop and drop with legumes and things like comfrey I'd be doing both at the same time eh?

I've been saving cardboard and newspaper and I've been thinking of trying to find someone wanting to offload spoiled hay or just stock up on straw.

Composting has been tough with existing materials because of a lack of nitrogen. Ton of carbon, short on nitrogen sources.

I also think the city has a restriction on chickens, I thought about doing rabbits for the manure but I believe the phosphorous comes from the manure of seed eating birds. I imagine it couldn't hurt though.

Thanks for the help and suggestions!
9 years ago
I've been pouring over everything permaculture for the past year or so. I don't yet have a PDC. I'm starting with my backyard on a 1/4 acre lot in a subdivision in Central Florida. First some details:

My front door faces West
The following soil test kit told me the following:
The soil has a pH around 4.5 to 5.0 in an open area, I am testing under an oak soon to see how that differs
Nitrogen, Phosphorous, and Potash are all at depleted levels
The soil is largely sand, or what we call Myakka sand, very little to no clay or humus. Water standing in a downfall will drain within seconds
There are currently citrus trees that drop fruit before ripening
There is a septic tank and leach field
There are also one large oak and two sycamores but sun reaches at this point roughly 30 to 40% of the ground. Trimming will improve this.

I've included some pics to show an initial overall plan so far (not completed), and two detailed drawings for what I plan to do close to the house.

I've got to work out what plants I will use and tackle some details in the plantings, that's a little daunting right now. I found Nick Garbarino's plant list so that will be a big help.

I heartily welcome all comments, suggestions, ridicules, ribbings, falderall, observations, and general input.

9 years ago
Thank you The Thekla and Lorenzo, I will post my site as a project. I looked in the regional forum and found Nick Garbarinos plant list so that's a huge time saver
9 years ago
John,
I'm still new to this so take what I say with a grain of salt until someone more experienced chimes in.

When comparing conventional agriculture (farms and gardens) with permaculture, it seems like the latter is much more complicated since it requires and understanding of how species interact with each other.



Agriculture period is complicated once you get to the "root" of the matter which is the soil, I think often it just varies in how we approach it. When you start looking at soil composition and structure, cation exchange, pH and nutrient or mineral levels it's all complicated. Conventional agriculture just takes a more narrow, industrial approach to understanding it by adjusting and compensating for these various complexities with methods that in the long term are detrimental, even if short term they are "productive". Conventional ag addresses deficiencies with commercial fertilizers and off farm inputs whereas permaculture seeks to supply the deficiencies in a natural, successive way.

Wheras its very easy to just plant your favorite things in a row next to each other and replant them again next year instead of taking the time to create an ecosystem with symbiotic relationships.



This may be initially true for the short term but in the long term you end up bringing in offsite inputs which increase expense and labor (fertilizer, sometimes commercial compost, lime, etc). So while the backyard garden may produce year after year with truckloads of new topsoil and fertilizer you invariably progress towards some sort of depletion. Permaculture may be looked at as a short term slow starter and labor intensive initially but as natural processes take over and the system produces for itself your workload is lighter, your inputs are minimum to zero (the system provides the needs), and your yield (as compared to the backyard garden when all things are taken into account) ends up being higher.


how would somebody whom knows very little about permaculture realistically begin learning about it and begin practicing.



I started by reading and watching whatever I could find. If you have the dollars to plunk down you could always do a PDC. Alot of understanding comes from observation, good old trial and error. I sat in a chair in my yard and listed out observations. I walked around outside while it was downpouring to observe the water flow. After stuff like that it's researching and planning. I've simplified it obviously but that's the approach I've been able to take without being able to afford a PDC



It doesn't seem like something you could do in your backyard. From what I've seen you would require a large amount of land and a great deal of resources and knowledge to set up a permaculture system. Thoughts?



Geoff Lawton has a video of one of his students with a small backyard that is producing tons of fruit and veg and he has over 30 fruit trees on the site. Permaculture uses a technique called stacking which in some cases is just a functional stacking and in others it mimics the forest canopy...canopy, then trees, shrubs, herbaceous layer, and ground cover, etc. By stacking you load so much more into a small site. Stacking also lets you take advantage of vertical surfaces such as walls, trellises, fences, etc to "stack" your growth vertically instead of horizontally.

I think if permaculture only worked for large sites it would have to just qualify as another "method", it could not answer or help all those urban dwellers without the space. But I have seen many instances where the principles of permaculture were applied to small spaces to great advantage. Remember too, if you've gotten as far as looking at zone and sector analysis, you don't need to implement all 5 zones. A small urban lot may only have 2 zones to it.


Hope it helps, I'll yield the floor to someone with more experience and wisdom
9 years ago
Hello everyone. I'm in Central Florida (Minneola) on a 1/4 acre lot. I haven't been able to afford the PDC but I've been trying to consume everything permaculture I can get my hands on. I have a couple of books by Mollison including the Design Manual, some from Toby Hemenway and Ben Franks, and I've been spending time YouTube'ing anything permaculture and catching what I could of Geoff Lawton.

I spent some time prior to looking at permaculture with raised beds, tried to grow some olive trees, avocado trees, blueberries, and bananas to no avail. The raised beds did well for a while and I had a year or two using a 40x40 plot before bugs took over. Now I'm determined to give permaculture a run.

I've started out with a rough noob plan. You can see it at the link below along with some standing rainwater pics (doesn't stand long).

http://s284.photobucket.com/user/wonderfulwild/library/Backyard%20Permaculture%20Design

I'm trying to work on the plant list, which is a bear of a task, and to fill a couple areas that are vacant in my plan. I've got to get guilds together for my mini orchard too. My soil test kit came today too so I'll be seeing where I stand with that:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003JCMKEK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

I'm sure I'll get some things wrong initially but I'm trying to work through experience and observation and learn a little that way too.

I'll post updates on my progress and I'll be trolling around reading all the topics here.
9 years ago