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Lulubelle Davis

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We bought a house in Tucson about 8 months ago. It’s within the city limits, but we managed to get a half acre. The side yard is the perfect location for my kitchen garden, but the previous owners had at least a few loads of rocks brought in over there & it’s quite deep, maybe 6” at the deepest spot. There is also quite a bit of organic matter accumulated in with the rocks, which I really need to have here with my very sandy soil. I’m wondering if it would be better to try to do a really heavy layer of mulch on top of it, or somehow try to remove the rocks, and sift out the organic matter. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to move these rather than sifting out a shovel full at a time with a screen? I’ll be getting chickens soon - would they help to separate the rocks, with all of their scratching? I hear that they pile up rocks sometimes but I don’t know if they do it consistently.
1 week ago

Nicole Alderman wrote:Any chance you could post a picture of folded clothes? I mean I trust that they got folded, but I have to follow the requirements. I think if you can post a picture of some of those same articles of clothing folded, I can certify this!



Thanks for reminding me. I got caught up in finishing the PDC. I updated my post with the folded pic.
3 weeks ago
I think one more willow feeder stall would be very helpful when there are multiple people trying to use it during a short break.

3 weeks ago
Washed my clothes today using the manual washer at base camp. I just realized that I didn’t post a folded pic. They are still drying right now.
3 weeks ago
Cass lighting the batch box.
1 month ago
Sharing some pics I’ve taken over the last few days.
1 month ago
Ok, I have one more question. Still trying to work out the details, but for now I’m leaning toward having my mom stay at home with my children rather than bringing them along. This only leaves one unsettled issue - would there be a freezer where I could store my breast milk for the duration of the PDC? I’m assuming that I won’t have time to keep running to town for ice to keep it in a cooler, plus it will go bad after 2 weeks in a cooler, no matter how much ice I put in it.
Sorry to be such a pain.
1 month ago
That’s amazing, but why would he want them to tear it down when he’s gone? Sounds like it’s still in excellent shape!!
2 months ago
I should have clarified - the baby will not be with me during any of the class sessions. She will be taking a pumped bottle during the day & nursing in my free time & overnight (I understand there won’t be too much of that). The kids will not be in the classroom at all, that’s why my mom would be there - to watch them while I’m busy. So, it would be $160 for them to come along, with the understanding that they are not to be involved in the PDC at any time, but onsite for most of the day, or out and about at another location? I wouldn’t let them wander without my mom supervising - I grew up in a rural setting as well, so I understand the dangers & challenges of being so far away from a town.

Thank you!


Jocelyn Campbell wrote:

Lulubelle Davis wrote:I’m in the same situation as Kay, but I have a 10 year old, 6 year old and a nursing 6 month old. My mom is able to come along to watch all 3 of them during class time, so I’m assuming that’s still ok? I got a free ticket for being a kickstarter backer, so I haven’t planned a whole lot yet. Thinking about driving my SUV, with tent, camping equipment & food, and the kids and my mom will stay with me in our tent. Is there a place I can pitch the tent so that the babies’ cries in the middle of the night won’t wake up other campers?


HI Lulubelle! The situation with Kay is a bit different - she is bringing only one child with a dedicated caregiver. Plus, since she was interested in renting, and did end up renting here, I waived any additional fees for her child and her child's caregiver. We typically charge a gapper fee of $100 for the first family member, then $20 each after that, just to come out to wheaton labs.

Annnd....I'm worried a nursing 6 month old would be a disruption to the class. I'm worried even Kay's 5 year-old will be a disruption to the class! So these questions give me an opportunity to clarify a few things.

This 2019 PDC taught by Alan Booker is an information dense, highly technical PDC geared towards those who want to delve deep into the design science of permaculture:  scientists, engineers, teachers. This is an adult event where kids will not be happy in the classroom (BORING! to kids) and where the adult learning environment needs the least distractions and interruptions in order to be able take it all in.

So, it is best if kids are not in the classroom during instruction time, which is 8 to 5 with a lunch break in the middle, and then there will be design work or other presentations in the evening. It's a packed day.

When my kids were 6 months old, I was still nursing them every 1 to 2 hours (I know!), and I certainly would not bring a baby in to a class like this every two hours if it were me. Which is a hard thing for me to write since I certainly want to be welcoming to women and mothers and support them in this cool learning opportunity. And at the same time, I really don't want to diminish or detract from the learning experience of the rest of the class.

Lulubelle Davis wrote:My mom isn’t very familiar with permaculture, she only knows a few things I’ve explained to her. Would it be ok for her & the kids to wander around the property, to explore all of the features? I don’t want them to be in the way, but I think this would be a great opportunity for my mom & kids to see the potential it has. Is there any type of hiking/walking area around (without driving an hour) where they could just experience being in nature? We homeschool, so my kids are thrilled to be outside with binoculars and magnifying glasses so they can explore. Plus, we’ve never been to Montana before, so it’s a new environment. I’m also assuming there is a grocery store nearby where I can replenish items in the cooler? Is there a source for water? When we camp, we usually bring all water for drinking & cleaning up. Is there water to wash dishes without bringing my big water containers? I’ll bring natural soaps. I’m beyond excited - I didn’t think this would be able to happen for another few years, since my girls are so young. Is it ok that I bring 3 kids and my mom along, if I bring all camping equipment and food for us & they don’t interact with us during work time?


There are acres and acres to explore here, and other areas to explore nearby - so, with caveats, and if there might be a way for this to work, your mom and kids could wander and explore. And yes, we have good well water at base camp available to workshop attendees and campers. Though the warnings/caveats we typically give to those with children are that this is a site of innovation and almost continual construction. There are not typically any "childproof" or "child-safe" zones so close supervision is really a must. There are construction tools, nails, sharp things, construction equipment, earthen berms that have not been stabilized yet, etc. that are within a child's reach, though are certainly not for children. Plus, we have mountain lions here, and black bears (no grizzlies) so unattended children could be in danger. (Our next door neighbors watched a mountain lion eat their dog two years ago.)

It's Montana, so "close by" is very different out here. There is not much "close by" by most people's standards since we are in a rural location. Missoula is the best source for organic food* and that's about a 40 minute drive away. That's very "close by" in Montana terms!

*We ask that folks eat organic or better since their pee and poo is (eventually) returned to the land here and we don't want persistent herbicides (which can last a decade or more) from non-organic food.



2 months ago
I’m in the same situation as Kay, but I have a 10 year old, 6 year old and a nursing 6 month old. My mom is able to come along to watch all 3 of them during class time, so I’m assuming that’s still ok? I got a free ticket for being a kickstarter backer, so I haven’t planned a whole lot yet. Thinking about driving my SUV, with tent, camping equipment & food, and the kids and my mom will stay with me in our tent. Is there a place I can pitch the tent so that the babies’ cries in the middle of the night won’t wake up other campers?
My mom isn’t very familiar with permaculture, she only knows a few things I’ve explained to her. Would it be ok for her & the kids to wander around the property, to explore all of the features? I don’t want them to be in the way, but I think this would be a great opportunity for my mom & kids to see the potential it has. Is there any type of hiking/walking area around (without driving an hour) where they could just experience being in nature? We homeschool, so my kids are thrilled to be outside with binoculars and magnifying glasses so they can explore. Plus, we’ve never been to Montana before, so it’s a new environment. I’m also assuming there is a grocery store nearby where I can replenish items in the cooler? Is there a source for water? When we camp, we usually bring all water for drinking & cleaning up. Is there water to wash dishes without bringing my big water containers? I’ll bring natural soaps. I’m beyond excited - I didn’t think this would be able to happen for another few years, since my girls are so young. Is it ok that I bring 3 kids and my mom along, if I bring all camping equipment and food for us & they don’t interact with us during work time?
2 months ago