Nicole Alderman wrote:Any chance you could post a picture of folded clothes? I mean I trust that they got folded, but I have to follow the requirements. I think if you can post a picture of some of those same articles of clothing folded, I can certify this!
Jocelyn Campbell wrote:
Lulubelle Davis wrote:I’m in the same situation as Kay, but I have a 10 year old, 6 year old and a nursing 6 month old. My mom is able to come along to watch all 3 of them during class time, so I’m assuming that’s still ok? I got a free ticket for being a kickstarter backer, so I haven’t planned a whole lot yet. Thinking about driving my SUV, with tent, camping equipment & food, and the kids and my mom will stay with me in our tent. Is there a place I can pitch the tent so that the babies’ cries in the middle of the night won’t wake up other campers?
HI Lulubelle! The situation with Kay is a bit different - she is bringing only one child with a dedicated caregiver. Plus, since she was interested in renting, and did end up renting here, I waived any additional fees for her child and her child's caregiver. We typically charge a gapper fee of $100 for the first family member, then $20 each after that, just to come out to wheaton labs.
Annnd....I'm worried a nursing 6 month old would be a disruption to the class. I'm worried even Kay's 5 year-old will be a disruption to the class! So these questions give me an opportunity to clarify a few things.
This 2019 PDC taught by Alan Booker is an information dense, highly technical PDC geared towards those who want to delve deep into the design science of permaculture: scientists, engineers, teachers. This is an adult event where kids will not be happy in the classroom (BORING! to kids) and where the adult learning environment needs the least distractions and interruptions in order to be able take it all in.
So, it is best if kids are not in the classroom during instruction time, which is 8 to 5 with a lunch break in the middle, and then there will be design work or other presentations in the evening. It's a packed day.
When my kids were 6 months old, I was still nursing them every 1 to 2 hours (I know!), and I certainly would not bring a baby in to a class like this every two hours if it were me. Which is a hard thing for me to write since I certainly want to be welcoming to women and mothers and support them in this cool learning opportunity. And at the same time, I really don't want to diminish or detract from the learning experience of the rest of the class.
Lulubelle Davis wrote:My mom isn’t very familiar with permaculture, she only knows a few things I’ve explained to her. Would it be ok for her & the kids to wander around the property, to explore all of the features? I don’t want them to be in the way, but I think this would be a great opportunity for my mom & kids to see the potential it has. Is there any type of hiking/walking area around (without driving an hour) where they could just experience being in nature? We homeschool, so my kids are thrilled to be outside with binoculars and magnifying glasses so they can explore. Plus, we’ve never been to Montana before, so it’s a new environment. I’m also assuming there is a grocery store nearby where I can replenish items in the cooler? Is there a source for water? When we camp, we usually bring all water for drinking & cleaning up. Is there water to wash dishes without bringing my big water containers? I’ll bring natural soaps. I’m beyond excited - I didn’t think this would be able to happen for another few years, since my girls are so young. Is it ok that I bring 3 kids and my mom along, if I bring all camping equipment and food for us & they don’t interact with us during work time?
There are acres and acres to explore here, and other areas to explore nearby - so, with caveats, and if there might be a way for this to work, your mom and kids could wander and explore. And yes, we have good well water at base camp available to workshop attendees and campers. Though the warnings/caveats we typically give to those with children are that this is a site of innovation and almost continual construction. There are not typically any "childproof" or "child-safe" zones so close supervision is really a must. There are construction tools, nails, sharp things, construction equipment, earthen berms that have not been stabilized yet, etc. that are within a child's reach, though are certainly not for children. Plus, we have mountain lions here, and black bears (no grizzlies) so unattended children could be in danger. (Our next door neighbors watched a mountain lion eat their dog two years ago.)
It's Montana, so "close by" is very different out here. There is not much "close by" by most people's standards since we are in a rural location. Missoula is the best source for organic food* and that's about a 40 minute drive away. That's very "close by" in Montana terms!
*We ask that folks eat organic or better since their pee and poo is (eventually) returned to the land here and we don't want persistent herbicides (which can last a decade or more) from non-organic food.