Jordon Thompson

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since Oct 27, 2015
Southeast, Zone 7
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Cassie/Hannah/Staff, I got my first magazine of many in the mail yesterday and IT IS PHENOMINAL. You all did such a great job. It was super educational, easy to navigate, lots of great pictures and designs, I love it. 70 years from now when my great grand-kids are hopefully reading your magazine, I'll get to brag that I got the very first one.
2 years ago
Hey David, I know this is 5 months late, but I'm curious to hear what you ended up doing on the land with your pigs. I'd like to get into raising hogs for a side income eventually.

As you know, pigs eat just about anything (blackberries, plant roots, grasses, clover, legumes, spoiled milk, apples, dead carcasses, etc). So I think anything you plant, they are going to eat and grow healthy. The problem is getting them BIG (who gets fat off of lettuce and dandelion?). Are you going to be importing grain for feed into the system? This is why a lot of people who are trying to raise hogs in a sustainable way will rotate them in the woods to harvest fallen acorns, chestnuts, or any other "grain tree" as well as persimmons and mulberries. You should read Tree Crops: A Permanent Agriculture by J. Russell Smith. Also, have you thought about planting sunroot aka jersualem artichoke? They are a high calorie food that produce a lot of biomass with zero care. The hogs love to dig up the roots and will eat the stalks too. However, your boss may be completely pissed that you planted something that many would call an invasive weed. Here's a forum on the plant that you may have run across before:

http://permies.com/t/53764/plants/great-big-thread-sunchoke-info

Also, there's a couple in Travelers Rest who has a small pig operation. I've spoken with him before over email, and he seems really nice. I'd bet they would be able to answer a lot of your questions. Here's their website:

http://fraylick.com/

Hope this is helpful, if even a tiny bit. Also, I live in TR and am trying to grow lots of food, so I'd love to collaborate in the future, even if it's just trading advice.
2 years ago
Thanks for sharing the photos, Inge! This looks awesome! Are any of your neighbors doing anything like this?
2 years ago
6 years later and I'm curious if any of you have had any success with this. Also,

Toby Hemenway wrote:Kiwis are awfully aggressive for trellising up trees. I've seen one kiwi pull down a full grown apricot. In general, trellising edibles up trees is a nicer theory than practice, because harvest becomes very difficult. The major edible vines are very vigorous growers and will choke or shade most trees after 5 years or so. They do it in Italy, but mostly the vines grow on wires between the trees, and they prune the vines away from the trees.



Could you not prune the kiwi vine vigorously or even cut it down to the ground every year or two? It seems like that would be manageable on a small scale. I planted mimosa in the same hole as my fruit trees and I come by once a year and chop it to the ground. If I could do that with the vines, I'd kill two birds with one stone.
2 years ago
I live near Greenville SC and am looking for local fig cuttings, mulberry, asian or local persimmon seedlings, hazels, chestnut and pecan trees. I am creating a "tree bank" of sorts, collecting as many varieties that are adapted or do quite well for our area. So anyone in Oconee, Pickens, GSP, or even up towards Hendersonville/Asheville would be perfect. I will pay you for whole trees or cuttings and will come to you or meet up at a public spot. Thanks!
2 years ago
Ken, I'm pretty sure he means the small, above-ground shoots that the roots send up. Gaia's Garden by Hemenway mentions that the shoots are edible and indeed they are. I'm not sure if they can be eaten raw or not, but we've diced and sauteed them with greens. Maybe they could be prepared similar to asparagus.
2 years ago

Dan Boone wrote:I have been chucking seed about like a madman for several years now. A whole lot of it doesn't grow.

But some of it does. And the stuff that does is the stuff that I want, ultimately. Because I want stuff that will grow and produce without much or any attention.



I like your way of thinking, Dan!

Soil Prep: It's a series of beds that were sheet mulched. They have lots of organic matter, some red clay, and worms. Good stuff, well drained, I'm not worried about the soil.

Weeds: Not too worried about that, I've had annual vegetables in it last year, didn't have too many weed problems then, and I had my chickens over the area for awhile over the winter so I'm sure they cleaned up lots of weed seeds.

Water: I'm definitely going to be looking at the weather forecast and try to plant before a storm. Thanks for the tip.
2 years ago
Also, it seems that my number 8 bullet point is too cool for school.
2 years ago
Hey fellow Permies! Please post your encouragements/warnings/cautions for my experiment this spring. I've created some gardening goals/experiments for my life, like creating my own cultivar of black mulberry. Another one is creating several different perennial vegetable polycultures. One in particular that I'm going to try this year is a mix of asparagus, husk cherry (physalis pruinosa), carrot, basil, yarrow and maybe some small greens to close in any gaps for ground cover. I've chosen these plants because

1) most of these plants are perennial or self seed,
2) asparagus and tomato get along,
3) Physalis pruinosa is related to tomato,
4) carrots and tomato get along,
5) basil and tomato get along,
6) if a = b and b = c, then maybe a = c,
7) asparagus, well controlled by our ravaging appetite, will leave plenty of light for these "understory" plants to find their own niches,
can be direct sown around the same time,
9) they are harvested at different times of the year, getting year-round, "hands-off" production from a single bed, and
10) they are all incredibly delicious.

Since I'm going to try this 50x25 sq ft area, and I'm sort of lazy, I was also thinking about just mixing all these seeds together in a bucket and direct sowing them at the appropriate time, and just crossing my fingers and let the strongest seeds win. I seriously don't want to have to do anything else besides casting the seed, maybe applying a thin layer of mulch over top, and forgetting it until the harvest time for each type of plant.

Please tell me I'm crazy and that this won't work. And tell me why! Thanks. PS- Don't tell me not to harvest asparagus until the third year, or that I should plant crowns not seed, or that I should only plant males and pull the females. I'm all aware of that. I actually want the asparagus to self seed and get weedy.
2 years ago
Thanks for the advice everyone! We decided that 1) we are going to tell people we are selling the fruits/veggies because of the work we've put into them, 2) they can get them at a huge discount or maybe even free if they help us with the harvesting or any other chores, and 3) we want to always be generous so there may be times when we give it away and expect nothing in return, and the certain freeloading neighbors and family members that don't get included in on that and get mad at us for it (mainly the people who have the actual physical ability to work for it themselves) will just have to deal with it, I guess.
2 years ago