Simon Flygare

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Hi peter. Sounds like a great place you have found. I never made the trip down to Bulgaria unfortunately. It was my plan all along to visit the country but then covid-19 popped up, and I couldn't travel and now I dont have the time at the moment . But thanks for your very kind offer Peter. Do you know if it usually is hard to track down the owners of abandoned properties where you are?
3 months ago
Hi, As Anita suggests groups for expats living or thinking about moving to spain could be a great resource. facebook.com/groups/livingoffgridspain has a lot off knowledgeable people and I often see your questions asked in the group, so there's a good chance someone can give you some sound answers too what you are seeking. There seems to be similar groups on facebook too livingoffgridspain but more specialized in the regions and communities. I personally know next to nothing about buying property in spain, but what I  have gathered from others are that spain has quite a bit of bureaucracy involved with property and it seems to vary a lot from region to region
5 months ago
Dumpster diving could maybe be a great source of organic matter. I do it in denmark and I got one shop that I frequently dumpster dive at that almost daily throws out a couple of large trash bags of bread and often a whole bag of orange peels from there juicer. Besides the bread and peels, there's almost alway fruit and vegetables in most shops that sell food items both organic and non-organic.
Sometimes I find plants, so it can definitely be worth it to have a look in the dumpsters, if its legal where you are.  
7 months ago
Do you have any ideas about a source of income when when you guys have bought and moved to a place? You need to keep in mind that living costs and taxes fluxuates from place to place, and
when looking at properties I personally think that it could be a huge benefit in the long run, to investigate potential income flows. Like others have said, take your time and get to know the area and the people.

Try to get and idea about the general living conditions in the area. If you are going really rural and far from larger populated places I would also look at what the majority of people do for a living to get an idea about the possibilities in that area, e.g market gardening might not be that profitable if everyone around you are growing or bartering there way to produce. Also as mentioned elsewhere in this thread people comes first. Let people know that you are looking for a place (lots of places are not listed online) Involve yourself in the community. It's much easier to relocate to a place where someone cares about you and want you to success, and also becoming part of the local/village economy is probably less hard knowing people and local customs and traditions than being a total outsider.

This comment is not meant in any way to limit your options when looking for a place, just a reminder on that making some groundwork, thinking ahead and making some excessive thoughts about what you can bring to the table, hopefully can save you from some troubles later on.
9 months ago
Hi Pieter. I'm also on the look out for a place to settle within the eu. Some of the eastern european and balkan countries are more affordably when it comes to real estate than some of the western countries. But i've also looked at properties with great prices in other parts of the continent especially the Iberian countries and rural Italy, and it really comes down to preferences and what you intends to do with the place. You write that you are a´looking for raw land and I get that you guys are after something cheap to start from scratch.
But being raw land it can very well have its disadvantages like zoning and if your allowed to build (or have a portable structure like a yurt or caravan on your land) and getting all the right permits for building, drilling a well  etc. and also the cost of said permits.

There's plenty of sites to start your hunt for a place

ss.com - A latvian site where I have found farms at fair prices
- https://www.ss.com/msg/lv/real-estate/farms-estates/ludza-and-reg/pusmucovas-pag/ijjdi.html
- https://www.ss.com/msg/lv/real-estate/farms-estates/liepaja-and-reg/pavilosta/jcexf.html
- https://www.ss.com/msg/lv/real-estate/farms-estates/cesis-and-reg/drabesu-pag/bfemdf.html
- https://www.ss.com/msg/lv/real-estate/farms-estates/cesis-and-reg/drustu-pag/cgpbj.html

kv.ee - Estonian site
- https://www.kv.ee/muua-talukoht-koos-juurde-kuuluva-maaga-1-ha-vilja-3027810.html?nr=3&search_key=b9b213d275ec82420cc31524202ad908

ingatlan.com and jofogas.hu Hungarian sites
- https://ingatlan.com/nyirabrany/elado+mezogazdasagi/termofold-szanto/hajdu-bihar+megye+nyirabrany/26896093

imot.bg/pcgi/imot.cgi and olx.bg - Bulgarian sites

Spanish sites
- http://www.consultorrural.com
- http://www.fincasmatarrana.com
- http://www.rusticaapi.com
- https://www.milanuncios.com
- https://www.idealista.com
- https://www.fotocasa.es/es/

www.allyoucanread.com is a good site for finding real estate- and classified sites in various countries
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/6fzehy/real_estate_websites_in_europe/ helpfull to get a fast overview of sites
There´s a great breakdown of costs in bulgaria here that really helped me gain som insight- https://permies.com/t/116543/permies-Bulgaria-Hungary

Hope you find some of what i listed useful - Simon  



     
9 months ago

Nick Truscott wrote:

  • We bought our first plot in Bulgaria in 2010... our second in 2012.... our third in 2014... they are all adjacent, located on the edge of a village of 500 families and we have one actual neighbour on one side of one of the plots.
  • We started building/renovating our house (the shell was on one of the plots) in 2012 and finished it in 2015
  • We moved here permanently in August 2015.
  • We are 20 minutes by bus from a well-heeled university / ex-port town of Svishtov on the Danube, and one hour from the old capital of Bulgaria, Veliko Tarnovo.
  • The total cost of the 3 plots, each of which had a 60+ year old structure on them, was about 16,000 leva or 8,000 Euros and totals about 8,500 square meters.
  • We also have almost sole access to 2 hectares of common land that we access from our livestock yard, on which we free graze our birds, sheep, pigs and young horse.

  • A range of our regular "outside" MONTHLY COSTS (roughly):
    - Water: 15 Euros - we also have 3 wells
    - Electricity: 60 Euros
    - Mobile Telephone: 10 Euros
    - Internet: 11 Euros
    - Petrol/LPG for pickup: 40 Euros
    - Public Health Insurance: 30 Euros total for 3 Adults
    - Vehicle/Road Tax: about 15 Euros
    - 3rd Party Vehicle Insurance (any driver): 18 Euros
    - House Rates (municipal residency tax for things like refuse, etc): 15 Euros

    We have survived 3 months at -20C or colder, 6 months of 27C summers, grass fires, crop failures, bird wipeout by pine martens, been completely locked in (unable to leave the property cos of the depth of snow) for 8 days, and most recently been forced to cull our breeding pigs due to African Swine Fever sweeping through Romania and Bulgaria, and I have also lost the use of one foot due to diabetic neuropathy in the past 2 months which has radically changed how we plan for and do work around the place.

    We had no previous livestock or growing experience having lived the preceding 30 years in the Middle East.  We have learned, practiced and gained experience in breeding, raising and selling pigs in our village economy; buying and raising sheep and goats for the freezer; breeding Indian Runner ducks, chickens and geese.  We have had to learn how to slaughter, dress and process all the livestock; plant and grow fodder crops so we now grow 70% of our annual livestock feed stuff; we are 100% self sufficient in meat products and maybe 70% self sufficient in vegetable production. We frequently barter meat for productive labour from village people, and also with other expats for things that we want but can't make or find for ourselves.

    We are not "puritan permies" but we use no chemical additives or enhancements or poisons or fertilizers on our soil and crops; we do not use chemical or pharma on our livestock and birds unless they require antibiotics as a result of an urgent or emergency situation or injury - they are not routinely dosed up like commercially raised critters.  We only use non-chemical home grown/made/mixed worming treatments for all our animals. Our large mammals free-range 100% and our birds free-range from dawn to dusk.

    Our Bulgarian experience has been humbling, mind-blowing, exhausting, hilarious and never are there two days the same.  We are 3, and there are 2 other expats now in the village. We participate in ll the village functions, events, dances (!!!) meals (!!!) community help schemes, winter leaf collection (we take ALL the leaves from the park and cemetery for mulch), putting out fires, we give away all our excess vegetable products, only employ village people for our projects.

    Best of luck on your decision making... only one piece of advice - don't evangelize your "permie" or "eco" ideas.... many of our village friends are 70+ years old and have been manually working the land and raising their own livestock and vegetables for over 60 years.  We simply allow our friends and neighbours to see what we do and how we do it, listen gracefully to the advice that is freely given... and let their experience, humility, humour and hard work soak into our lives - completely to our personal, practical and spiritual benefit.

    Below are some random pictures from the past few years to illustrate our wonderful, challenging, exhausting, exhilarating, extraordinary life!!!



    Hi Nick sorry for my late response to your post, but thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with me. I found the breakdown of costs you did really enlightening and helpful to gain an insight of how much it takes to sustain that type of lifestyle in Bulgaria. It sounds like there exist a great community around your village and I enjoyed reading how tasks are done together as a village and how project employment is kept to the people of the village.
    Thanks for the advice on not evangelizing my permie ideas, I definitely know what you mean and I keep that i mind.

    Looking online it seems a bit like real estate in the north are cheaper, not much but still a bit. Do you know if that's true? But it also looks like there's more listings online from the north so it might be because of that

    Thanks again - Simon      
    9 months ago

    Peter Adams wrote:Hi Simon

    I've been living in Bulgaria for 4 onths anf just a week ago bought a property. Very cheap and very easy to buy.  It;s in the South West near Macedonia border. More about my place here Atmanna, Bulgaria

    I dont know about Hungary, but a friend who also owns a place nearby says he also just bought a place in Hungary because it's cleaner and prettier.

    Namaste
    Atma



    Hi Peter thanks for the response. Since I wrote the post I´ve visited Hungary, but it was Budapest so unfortunately I haven't seen the hungarian countryside. But Hungary is cheap by scandinavian standards, and people seems to be overall very open and friendly to foreigners, but it could very well be because it was the capital?

    Hungary seems nice and cheap but for what I can tell there's not many larger forested areas although there's a small part of the carpathians in the northern part close to border with Slovakia. I´m a keen mushroom forager  so more wooded areas would be a plus but not what i'm making my final decision on. I'm planning on a revisit to Hungary in the summer and a first time visit to Bulgaria hopefully having the time to go through both the northern and southern parts of the country. How dry are the summers usually in the area where you are?

    Thanks in advance - Simon    

     
    9 months ago

    Jan Hrbek wrote:There is one perfect e-shop called Permaseminka.cz (= "perma seeds") in our country. This young man products and sells small packets of seeds of different varieties of many vegies.. All of them are stabile hybrids, so after buying it you can produce your own seed for next seasons.. Owner of the e-shop tries them on his garden first and when he finds them to be suitable for central Europe, only then he starts to sell it. Maybe some of them would grow well in Denmark too.




    Thanks, looks nice. There's  definitely some interesting varieties that I haven't seen before, and could be worth to try.
    10 months ago

    Flora Eerschay wrote:I recently made contact with a woman who closed her local shop and wants to reopen with online shop this spring. She has many varieties that she developed herself, although they are not labelled organic (I think). I'm going to buy from her as soon as she reopens, because it's very local for me and I really want to support. I don't know if she's also going to sell abroad, but I could help her translate the shop to English if necessary.



    Sounds great. It is a nice resource to have, to be a able to buy seeds adapted to your local growing conditions and area, and on top of that support a local business while getting some good crops
    10 months ago

    Skandi Rogers wrote:

    Simon Flygare wrote:Hi Skandi. I am not looking to buy huge amount of seeds for most types of vegetables. But I find the amount of seeds in crops that are sown multiple times in the season like salad greens, mustard, spinach, etc. a bit to small and to costly sometimes to buy in bulk. For comparison I get around 3000 seeds of mizuna for 0,99 GBP from premierseedsdirect and from barney.dk its listed as a min of 400 seeds for 20 kr.

    Joint orders could maybe be good for the above mentioned types of greens and kale, so we could definitely sort something out. The swedish site looks promising and I will take a look at the others, thanks
    - Simon  




    How do you find a Danish site that lists amount of seeds! All I see on the packets are "enough for 10 linear meters" ARGH. You could also try going to a garden center they often sell Mr Fothergills which is a British seed company, their lettuces have 1200 seeds in a packet and carrots normally somewhere around 2000. Depending where you live you might find a place that caters to the people with vejboder. there's one near me that sells some seeds that it weight out itself so you get a ton of seeds for not very much at all. (it's in Thisted.. so probably not close to you)




    Yeah most sites and catalogues doesn't list the amount of seeds. But I have found some that does. Good advice about vejboder, never thought of that. I´m near Copenhagen so yes Thisted is not in the neighborhood, fortunately there's some vejboder in my area so I could be lucky.  
    10 months ago