Kay Bee

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Southwestern OR
Jackson County, OR (Zone 7)
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Thanks Jeremy. I looked through the link and it was earthship style construction info that I was prettly familiar with, but I have not seen the video. I'll take a closer look once I get a couple hours free.

Thanks for posting both pieces of info!

I did a quick search for the pro-panel material and it looks like the basic components are similar to other metal roofing (24, 26 or 29 ga steel or galvalume) with PVDF or acrylic coating.

We ended up going with 24 ga steel panels with the PVDF coating. Had to make the call to get the roof on before the bad weather hit. I'll be curious to hear what Reynolds has to say on why the Pro Panel material is the safest.
5 years ago

Natasha Turner wrote:Hi Kay Bee, just visited your WordPress site. Love the pictures and the info. Thank you.


Hi Natasha,

Thank you very much for you kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the site!

Best wishes
5 years ago

Saybian Morgan wrote:my group membership isn't approved yet but could you tell me where is the regional dominance of this group? I'd drive down to washington to find perrenials I can get, but oregon will need a rental car.



Hi Saybian,

I'm still pretty new to the group, but the member's list info I have looked at seemed to be spread across the US. The exchange is through the mail rather than an in-person swap, as far as I know.

Please let me know if that doesn't answer your questions. I can see if one of the founders is able to come answer questions, too.

An acquaintance of mine recently introduced me to an exchange network for trading scions, cuttings, rhizomes, tubers, and such. I just joined and it looks like from the members have & want lists, there is quite a selection available. Please take a look.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/scionexchange/
"This is a place where people who are in the United States and Canada can find, exchange, and discuss scion wood, rootstocks, various fruit trees, and other orchard plants."
Great - thank you very much for all your help! I'm really excited to have another mushroom of that caliber growing in one of our beds.

I will look up the Queen boletes and see if they are perhaps the boletes with yellow pores that are coming up under the doug-firs. the mushroom guides you and David mentioned will be high on list. I like my Audubon guide, but it doesn't do the best job in keying out specimens.

6 years ago

M.K. Dorje wrote:The mushrooms in the photo look a lot like the white chanterelle (Cantharellus subalbidus)- a close relative to the Pacific golden chanterelle that is a dull white color. White chanterelles are mycorrhizal with madrone, manzanita, Douglas-fir, tanoak, chinquapin, evergreen huckleberry and maybe oak. If you have older trees of any of these species nearby, the mushrooms might be growing on the root system of one of these trees. But normally, white chanterelles don't grow in disturbed or cultivated soils. They actually prefer older stands of Douglas-fir mixed with all the hardwoods I mentioned earlier, especially under madrone and manzanita.Here's the link: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/cantharellus_subalbidus.html
If you could harvest one of the bigger specimens and take another close-up photo of the gills, it might be possible to be 100% sure. Also, be sure to bruise the specimen and see if it stains a yellow-orange to orange-brown color, one of the key characters of the white chanterelle. (It would be so cool if you had white chanterelles AND morels growing in the same bed!!) Below is another link with good photos and a description.



Thank you so very much for taking time to look at the pics and send your thoughts and links! My apologies for the delayed response. I was able to get some pics, but we have been dealing with the heavy rains the last few days (6 weeks, really! we're up to 12
" of rain since mid October)

Here are the links to a couple of pics that I hope will do a better job of showing the "gills" more clearly:
http://wellheeledhills.wordpress.com/2012/11/27/mushrooms-in-the-orchard-nov-2012/2012-11-30_08-33-58_300/

http://wellheeledhills.wordpress.com/2012/11/27/mushrooms-in-the-orchard-nov-2012/2012-11-30_08-34-30_835/

Based on your info here and on the mykoweb page, it certainly COULD be a white chanterelle... This specimen looks a bit more yellow in color, but otherwise it seems to fit as best I can tell. There are mature large madrones not far from the hugelkultur bed where these are growing. I went over outside my orchard fence and looked around a bit more under the oaks and madrones there but did not see any other similar mushrooms. Several other types, but none that come close to the suspected chanterelles. Quite a few boletes coming up under nearby Doug-firs, though... lots of things I need to identify.

Thanks again and I hope the new pics help.
6 years ago

Jay Grace wrote:Kay bee. If you are still around I'm curious as to how your massive planting turned out.
And how many acres did this planting consume?


Hello Jay,

Still lurking around Sorry for the late reply, my email notification for thread responses is sometimes sporadic for some reason...

Instead of planting large quanities of just a few varieties of each plant, my wife and I decided to do a test planting first and use a shotgun approach. Overall, we've got ~120 different types of plants in an area a little over a half acre right now.

Here is a thread with more details on the orchard/arboretum:
http://www.permies.com/t/7625/permaculture/Birth-Arboretum

The blog format may be easier to read due to picture format issues.
http://wellheeledhills.wordpress.com/2011/04/08/the-birth-of-an-arboretum/

Please let me know if you have any questions!

6 years ago

Crt Jakhel wrote:Hi,

I'm just waaay late to this thread. But if it still counts: you don't need to have raspberries bear only in the August-October period. The autumn or "everbearing" rasps have two periods of bearing, the first one in june-early July on 2-year canes and the second one in the later period, with a couple of weeks' time off in between. (This is based on my experience in a location that has last and first frost dates very similar to yours, but harsher winters.)

The difference is in the management of raspberries - if you cut them all down during winter you will of course only have the late crop. But if you do it selectively, removing only the canes that have had their second year's worth and are now drying out, you can keep picking from June to mid October with just that couple of months' hiatus in July.

Best of luck in your undertaking.


Hi Crt Jakhel,

Thank you for your thoughts - and they are always welcome even at this stage. Plans are constantly evolving

I definitely appreciate the everbearing raspberry benefit of 2 crops per year. I do try and leave at least three of the canes from the previous year (floracanes). So far, the Autumn Britten variety has been my best raspberry by far. There are still berries ripening on the plants even with all the rain and low levels of sun we've had this past month. No hard freeze yet means they just keep on going. The quality of the flavor is not so great right now, but they are quite good during the warm season. My kids love them at any time of year...
6 years ago
figs root quite easily from dormant wood cuttings... once you have had some cold weather to induce the trees to drop the leaves and go fully dormant, take cuttings about 8" long. I like to keep mine short enough to fit in a gallon zip-lock bag. Take the cuttings and roll them up in some damp (not dripping wet) paper towels. Place the bag in a warm location and wait for a week or so and start checking to see if they have callused and started to root. Make sure the temp is at least 70F or higher - higher is better.

Once the cuttings have started to root, transfer them gently to a pot with well drained soil and let them continue developing their root system. The biggest risk in the process is drying out due to the cutting putting out leaves before getting a decent root system established. Bottom heat can be helpful.

Automated misting is a very easy way to propagate figs (and most other plants) during the growing season. Stick green cuttings in sandy soil and make sure they are receiving mist regularly for several weeks, then transplant to a nursery bed.
6 years ago
Thank you very much, MK Dorje!

Apologies for the broken links to the photos... I will try again:
http://wellheeledhills.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/2012-11-27_11-34-31_130.jpg

http://wellheeledhills.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/2012-11-27_11-34-37_106.jpg

Thank you for the links, I will take a close look at them. I am curious to hear your thoughts if you can view my two photos linked above.

Great idea on checking out the chanterelles at the grocery store. Our local market does not carry them, but if I can get down to Ashland, I bet their co-op or organic grocery will have them.

Regarding the hugelkultur and mushrooms, I was astounded to find several dozen morels in this same bed this past Spring. The bed was only made in the Spring 2011! It is near a large old Oregon white oak, so...
6 years ago