Wuthe Puck wrote:Man, there is so much learned helplesness in these responses. I get it, the system feels unstoppable (and probably is - don’t fight it, make it obsolete.)
However, this fellow is willing to fight it!!! If you have the energy to fight it, sir, I commend you and offer a deep bow of respect.
One option for funding is GoFundMe crowdsourcing. It looks from your last post you may not be using this forum any longer, but I wonder how the fight went?
maybe I did see it once, I just saw it in my messages but like is crazy so I might have got distracted!Matt McSpadden wrote:Hi Anthony,
Glad you found us :) I tried sending out some PM's to people from the old thread, but I don't think many people got them.
Matt McSpadden wrote:Hi All,
You can now register for the Maine Permaculture and Homestead Meetup (formerly Maine Permies Meetup).
https://www.eventcreate.com/e/mainemeetup
The time has come to plan the Maine Permies Meetup 2024!Here are the questions that need deciding.
What? - Two parts. The first part will be education with 3 presenters. Jesse Watson (Permaculture consultant) and Lisa Steele (Author and blogger on backyard chickens and cooking) and Justin Lapp (Assistant Professor at UMaine and Director of the Solar Thermal Energy Laboratory). Second part just down the road will be at the Timber Kitchen and Bar.This is the question I need your help on the most. Last year, we went to a nice restaurant with a lot of local food and had a great time fellowshipping. We could do that again. Many people expressed interest in something more. There are two main paths to look at here. One way would be to have a more free-form time at a park or farm with room for kids to play. The other would be more focused with work/instruction and probably need to be just adults or older children. In both cases I think it should culminate with a meal of some sort (whether potluck, catering, or restaurant is open for discussion). Other things suggested were: a special speaker, a documentary/instructional movie, a project on someone's homestead, building a rocket mass heater, an afternoon at a farm, or the fedco tree sale.
Who? - The first 40 people who want to come and can sit through presentations. The target is adults and older kids in Maine.Kids or no kids is really the only question here. And that will greatly be effected by the "What" question. Since I'm planning this, I get to decide the rest of this question. This is targeted for people living in Maine who have an interest in permaculture, homesteading, farming, gardening, sustainability, and the like. Anyone outside of Maine who wants to travel is also more than welcome.
When? - May 25th, 2024 part one - from 2pm to 5pm, part two - from whenever we get there to whenever (5:30pm until ?)Currently, I'm planning for sometime on the Memorial Day Weekend, which would be May 25th, 26th, or 27th (if I'm looking at my calendar correctly). If there are a majority of people who can't do this weekend, but can a different one, then I'm open to change.
Where? - Rize Center and then the Timber Kitchen and Bar, both in Bangor, MaineLast year, Bangor was the most centrally located geographically. Since it is fairly in the middle of the state, I think that still may be the case this year. If we have a large number of people interested, all from a certain area, this may skew things.
Please share your thoughts.
S Bengi wrote:Most cities/town that allow their citizens to raise chicken will specifically say no roosters allowed and a certain amount of setback from the fence line.
As with most things, the city only comes out if a neightbor calls and complaints and say you are causing problems to them, aka playing your music too loud, "playing your rooster too loud/etc". You can try bribing your neighbors with eggs and maybe switching over to ducks and be more selective of the people that you tell your endeavers too, who might then report you.
Whats its like for me in Boston, MA
https://chickenlaws.com/massachusetts/boston-chicken-laws/
Anne Miller wrote:
Anthony Dougherty wrote:That wouldn't be relevant as we as a state made this amendment, the state construction trumps the town ordinances. We are just trying to get legal representation.
Are you making your fight on a State level?
I see your wife, Mona is being sued by Old Town, Maine for having a loud rooster.
https://www.bangordailynews.com/2023/10/17/news/bangor/old-town-sues-owner-loud-rooster/
I didn't get to read the article due to that Ad Blocker thingy.
The City of Bangor, Maine Charter now allows families to keep farm animals:
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/bangor-family-wins-fight-to-keep-emotional-support-chickens-in-their-backyard/97-bee0514b-61f7-42b5-b981-2b68b6d303e2
John Wolfram wrote:Since this is a fairly new amendment, its precise meaning has likely has not been hashed out in court yet. While you might be right, you are likely facing a long drawn-out expensive legal fight. The expression "is this the hill you want to die on?" seems appropriate in this situation.
Anne Miller wrote:I am sorry to hear of your troubles.
I am in agreement with Thomas.
If I wanted to have chickens I would try talking with other folks in town who want chickens.
Then as a group, we could draft an amendment or an ordinance to present to the Town Council.
I doubt that the Town Council would even consider allowing roosters so I would make my draft exclude them.
Best wishes for your chickens.