Craig Conway wrote:Hello from Maine
I have a question about buying and storing food.
Cheap, and "just in case" of a social catastrophe, like a 3 month supply.
I wonder what to buy, what to use for storing, what to avoid, and any tips
Right now we have a 3 month supply of spring water stored in 5 gallon "Poland Spring" style jugs. They are in the basement out of the Sun light and covered in plastic (to avoid dust).
We are going to buy 3,000 rounds of ammo (small bore)
And we'd dig a 3 month supply of food
Hey you never know what might happen ! Why stand in a long line and pay twice as much when you could have been prepared ?
I'm assuming canned food is the ticket, I heard it's good for years, but honestly I don't know much about it. I heard there are some cans to avoid because of the liner being toxic () I don't know anything LOL, I am a computer repair guy!
Robert Tiller wrote:I don't know if this is the best place to put this but I just need ideas to help me escape this bind before it is too late. I need a few acres of land that could be built on legally in the future as my finances develop.
I'm 23 and live on my own, I moved out of a bad family situation at the age of 18, was homeless but for now rent a room. I've saved around 10,000 dollars, I have no debt but don't really have credit either. I occasionally see chunks of land float around within the price range but there's always something critically wrong with it such as it being wetlands, landlocked, illegal to build on, contaminated or various other nightmarish things I could never fix in my financial situation. I understand that anything I could afford is guaranteed to be very low quality, almost completely non arable desert, that would bring very limited payout in terms of homesteading (For something like that at least a greenhouse is an option) but I will take whatever I can realistically get. I have watched all those land websites (landwatch zillow etc) and it has been very fruitless. I tried calling logging and mining companies to see if they ever sell off land after they strip it and all told me no or give per acre prices (and minimum quantities to buy) so high it is impossible.
I don't know how long I'll be able to maintain my current rent situation, I rent a room and part of a greenhouse on a farm but the relationship with me and the home owners are extremely strained. And I'm starting to suffer serious burnout and fatigue from the stress and working too many hours, I really don't know how long I can take it.
Jim Aldridge wrote:If you were designing a homestead in a way to save money as the costs of groceries increase, what would you focus on? I know that certain items, like eggs, are cheap enough in the store that you can buy them about as easily as you can produce them. What are the animals and vegetables that can be produces on a homestead that will actually make the process make the most sense from an economic perspective?
John C Daley wrote:
BUT INTEREST IS LOST MONEY
"If you get a longer loan term, the compulsory payments are lower, and yes you will pay more money over time, COMPARED WITH A SHORT TERM LOAN, if you ran to the end of a 30 year loan.
Anne Miller wrote:
Nathan said, "If your water contains pathogens, then you need some sort of a filter which removes all solid materials from the water. This is used for water than comes out of dirty creeks and rivers.
Does the $20.00 filter remove pathogens?
Does the water still need to be boiled to remove parasites?
Can you give an example of this $20.00 filter?
A picture or maybe an Amazon link?
C. Nygren wrote:Howdy Yall,
With the multiple water treatment facility failures in the news I was digging into water purification/desalination and came across some interesting papers I thought I'd share here.
Yoon et. al. (2022) have now started field studies for a filterless desalinator! From what I've read it was designed to run off a little ($50) solar panel and only weighs 10kg. Looks like it currently only produces about .3L/hour, but with with additional solar panels and a battery backup that would be 7.2 Liters/day while off-grid. From related articles and interviews it sounds like the researchers are intending to create a desalination kit that would be available to consumers, likely at a reasonable cost as they target low-income families in coastal nations. While a bit too heavy for hiking, it sounds like it would be great for bugout vehicles and off-grid structures with access to non-potable water sources.
Guo et. al. (2022) looks further from market, but is more intriguing imo. Its a gel film that essentially acts like a powerless dehumidifier, just pulling water from the air but with no electricity! And its not just for the humid swamps, one report was saying that 1kg of the gell could pull 6L/day in humidities lower than 15%, and 13L/day with humidities up to 30%. In interviews the researchers are envisioning this gel as (eventually) available in hardware stores. Now it looks like the gel has to be heated to release the water, and the lifespan of the material hasn't been reported yet, but I still think its exciting.
At the moment I'm mostly geared for distillation over an open flame. What are yall's favorite current and future potential methods for water deslination/purification?
Yoon, et. al. (2022) 'Portable Seawater Desalination System for Generating Drinkable Water in Remote Locations'. Environ. Sci. Technol. 2022, 56, 10, 6733–6743
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/acs.est.1c08466 (Sadly there is a paywall).
Guo, el al. (2022) 'Scalable super hygroscopic polymer films for sustainable moisture harvesting in arid environments'. Nature Communications volume 13, Article number: 2761
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-30505-2 (No Paywall!).
Sam Benson wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone has ever done this or know anyone who has. Or if you have done wilderness survival, what is the least amount of stuff you had with? I realize that location and season would play a big role in whether this would even be possible. Curious to see your replies!