Steve Thorn

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Steve started his first "permaculture" garden when he was about 7 years old and has been addicted to growing things ever since! It was only about 20 square feet back then, and he didn't know much about gardening except what was on the back of the seed packet, but he knew he didn't want to use any fertilizer or pesticides, and wanted to grow everything as naturally as possible.
Years later, when he got some land of his own, he started planting a larger garden, berry bushes, and fruit trees, and also discovered permaculture and Permies! Permaculture has made growing things so much easier and enjoyable! He is passionate about growing things naturally using natural farming and permaculture methods to minimize work and maximize enjoyment!
He is also passionate about saving seed and creating new and locally adapted vegetable and own root fruit varieties to increase the natural growing vigor, flavor, and pest and disease resistance of the plants, to make them easier and more enjoyable to grow.
Creating a plant nursery selling these types of plants occupies most of his free time right now, and he is hoping to start selling these types of plants and seeds soon! He has learned so much from the Permies community and is excited to learn and share our experiences together!
Zone 7b/8a Temperate Humid Subtropical, Eastern NC, US
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May Lotito wrote:My peach tree is growing very fast from pit but I don't have high expectation for the taste of fruit. I am not too impressed by the peaches/nectarines in store, they are hard like stone and flavorless. I will see if I can buy some donut peaches to grow more trees.

I think you may be pleasantly surprised May. I've tasted peaches from a wild tree that I expect was grown from a tossed peach from the store, and it was delicious when fully ripe.

The insects are so bad here, I haven't had much luck here yet letting them ripen on the tree. However, I pick them when they are still hard, but starting to color up good, and then ripen them on the counter, and they get soft and juicy and full of flavor and are amazing!
9 hours ago

bruce Fine wrote:im interested in seeing how they being transplanted this time of year. ive in the past had best luck transplanting trees in dormancy. also have eaten preaches from trees that were the result of animals spreading peach pits

Yeah, I prefer to normally plant or transplant my trees in the fall too when dormant. It seems like the best time of year here for the health of the trees.

When I transplanted them I tried to keep as much soil on the roots as possible when I moved them. I also tried to move them really quickly and already had the hole dug that they were going into. I also watered them in pretty good right after planting them. I will just water them one, maybe two times, then they are on their own!

I think one reason these trees will make it, is that they haven't been watered at all before, not even once. I pushed the pits in the ground, and that was it. The toughest ones have survived, and there are quite a few of them, I think there are about 20 seedlings. They've had to have a good healthy root system and send down deep roots to search for water, and they are used to going through dry spells with hot weather and no rain.

We've had a lot of thundershowers recently, which I think will help them get established in their new home rather quickly!
9 hours ago

Tom Grom wrote:Hi. Our family is contemplating growing some stone fruit from seeds as well! We have been enjoying peaches, nectarines, plums, and plum/apricot hybrids from our local Southern California  farmers market (they’re actually grown in Reedly, CA) and want to try to plant some seeds.

That sounds really neat Tom, and it sounds good that they are being grown kind of close by, so hopefully the seedlings you grow will be pretty adapted to your local area.

How do you plan to approach this, Steve? Direct seeding in the ground? In containers? Natural stratification or ?? Maybe it starts with finding local neighbors who successfully grow peaches and collect seeds from them? What’s your plan?

I got some local peaches and plan to direct seed them in the ground. I've found that makes it super easy and quick, and the seeds have a much better chance of surviving without having to depend on me for something. This year I plan to direct seed most of them in their permanent location, that way they won't even have to be transplanted.

As you may be able to tell, this is my first post, as I have just been “lurking” for the past few months trying to glean some gardening wisdom. This topic enticed me to take the leap to active participation.

Awesome! Welcome to Permies!

Would love to see some photos of your seedlings when they start to come up!
19 hours ago
These peach seedlings are about 4 months old and already about 3 feet tall.

It's time to transplant them into their final home in the food forest! It's really hot right now and definitely not the ideal time to transplant them, but peaches seem to be pretty tough in the hot weather, so I think they'll do fine.
1 day ago
Have you wanted to try growing peach trees from seed and create your own new variety?

Then let's grow some peach trees together!

So why grow peaches from seed when there are numerous good existing varieties?

Most of the modern peaches aren't adapted to my particular climate and also aren't resistant to our local pests and diseases here.

Growing peach trees from seed creates the possibility to create totally new types of peaches that are more vigorous growers in your climate, more resistant to pests, and match your specific taste preferences!
1 day ago
Great article, really interesting!

It would be neat if we had cities like that here one day.
1 day ago
Awesome! I thought it looked familiar!

You could probably take some cuttings this fall and stick them in the ground in another spot and have lots of new trees for next year.

I used some willow cuttings this year with my grape cuttings, and both seemed to do really well together. Maybe that tree just needs a few grape vines growing on it?!
1 day ago
The leaves definitely look similar to a pomegranate.

I wonder if it's Salix matsudana (curly/corkscrew willow, Chinese willow)?
1 day ago
It doesn't appear to be a pomegranate to me.

This is a little off topic, but how did you propagate the pomegranate cuttings Scott?
1 day ago