M.K. Dorje Sr.

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My interests (besides permaculture) include: mycology and mushroom cultivation, wildcrafting, astronomy, seed saving, heirloom fruit trees, guitar music, etc.
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Hi M.K. Love your list! We also do sorrel, cabbage, Asian greens like komatsuna and bok choy, and potato onions. One things that's fun in the PNW is learning that some things will perennialize here that won't elsewhere. For example, my bulbing fennel came back after I cut it back late summer, and it looks great!

Regarding peas - there is a way to foil the mice.... Put row cover over the seeds and weight down the edges with garden stakes or tree branches so they can't crawl underneath. Keep the row cover on until after the seeds have sprouted and are at least a couple inches tall. Then you get to eat the peas, and the mice dont! Haha!



Jen, interestingly enough that's the exact same strategy I employed last year to thwart the rodents (and birds like the jays and the crows)! I even started the peas in a mini-cell tray and grew them in that for a couple weeks before transplanting them, something I wouldn't normally do with peas. I was real careful to hold down the row cover on all sides. But I came back a week after transplanting and every single pea plant was gone!

Apparently, the voles (or mice?) had come up underneath the row covers through their tunnel system and munched every one. After that, I decided to just give up on peas, it's not worth the trouble...I sure wish the owls would return to my garden, they were a great help. My garden is a rodent paradise since the owls disappeared. I also used to grow Florence fennel like you as a perennial but the rodents seem to absolutely devour that stuff the second it's planted or transplanted.

I also grow Asian greens for winter harvesting but forgot to put them on my list. I started out with wild garden mustard mix from Territorial Seed Company years ago and let them go wild and "landrace" with each other and then I let them self-sow for several years. They keep migrating around the garden. Nowadays, they're mostly down to what looks like Dragon Tongue mustard. It seems to be the best variety for my food forest garden.

I also like winter cabbage- January King is a savoy variety (with crinkled leaves) that I grew for years. In recent years I've been growing Winter King cabbage from a free seed packet, but it seems less adapted to the winter weather. I also seem to be planting it too early and it bolts before the end of September, where January King would hold in the field all winter long. I'll probably go back to January King this year and try transplanting around June 1st. Adaptive seeds carries both varieties.

I sure love winter veggies!
That's great that your local nursery has the new self-pollinating fuzzy kiwi. "Jenny" is a very vigorous vine and will grow up to 20 feet. Hopefully, it can take the heat, too.

https://www.davewilson.com/nurseries/products/vine-bush-fruit/kiwifruit/jenny-self-fertile/

4 days ago
I've been growing kiwis for many years. There are several different species and many varieties. The variety I grow is called Issai and is a member of the hardy kiwi group (Actinidia arguta). It requires afternoon shade but does not need a pollinator. Like Jay, I upcycled an old swing set (and some wire fencing) to provide a sturdy trellis for my plants. The fuzzless fruit is small but incredibly delicious and ripens in September and early October.

But for you I would  recommend getting fuzzy kiwis that are better adapted to full sun and a long, hot growing season. To insure pollination you'll probably want to get one male and two or more females. Look for low chill varieties that can take the heat such as Vincent (female) and Matua (male). Trellises need to be sturdy and strong for fuzzy kiwis!

Here's a handy planting guide for kiwis from Raintree Nursery:

https://raintreenursery.com/pages/growing-fruit-trees-kiwi

4 days ago
Here's a link to a handy Winter growing chart for maritime northwest gardeners from the Territorial Seed Company, I consult this chart all the time and adjust it according to how much shade is in different areas of the food forest/ garden during the fall and winter months:

https://territorialseed.com/blogs/fall-winter-growing-guides/winter-growing-chart

Territorial carries all kinds of winter veggie varieties.
Living in western Oregon in zone 8, I  always try to have a big winter garden with as much diversity as possible. I also try to perennialize as many veggies as I can. This winter, I've got kale (3 kinds), tree collards (2 kinds), Swiss chard (2 kinds), broccoli, leaf lettuce, parsley , celery, Brussels sprouts as well as lots of root crops- beets, carrots, turnips. Overwinter veggies include asparagus, artichokes, fava beans and purple-sprouting broccoli. Alliums include Walla Walla onions, Transylvania and Chinese pink garlic, Egyptian walking onions, green bunching onions, garlic greens and Musselburgh leeks. I also have some cilantro in my unheated greenhouse, along with the Meyer lemon trees.

My main problems are always rodents- mice, rats, voles and rabbits- they are always munching the root crops and wiping out my peas. I've pretty much given up on peas because of them. But I'm thankful to able to have such a good winter garden in spite of them.
I'm in agreement with Cristobal, especially #3- "try to protect the trees from excessive sun" and #4- "mulch a lot". I might add that most young trees in your hot climate require protection on their trunks from sun burn and sun scald, as well as borers. I advise that after planting, try painting the trunks from 1 inch below the soil line to the bottom branches with white latex paint or a similar product designed to protect the young trees. Wood chips from hardwoods make great mulch.

I might add that you might try  consulting with your local extension agent or fruit tree nursery person about the best varieties for your area. You want trees (and rootstocks) that are low chill, bear lots of delicious fruit, can take the heat, pollinate themselves (or each other)  and resist local diseases. For example, in this area (Oregon), I always advise that people buy peach leaf curl resistant varieties like Indian Blood and Frost. Don't just buy whatever the local supermarket or big box store is selling, try to buy from a reputable, locally-owned  nursery or go to a local fruit tree propagation fair/seed swap event. The people at these events are always super helpful.

Good luck and have fun!

1 week ago
I used to collect bull kelp on the beach near Florence, Oregon in the fall and early winter. (I'm not really sure when the best time to gather it is, though.) I used a machete to chop it into pieces and then throw it inside plastic garbage bags. Once I got it home, I'd soak it in water in 55 gallon barrels for a few days, then dump out the water away from the garden in order to get rid some of the excess salt. After soaking, I'd use the seaweed as mulch in the orchard or use it in the compost pile.

Kelp meal is an excellent source of potassium and trace minerals, but is super expensive and increasing in price. So gathering bull kelp is an excellent free substitute for people who like free organic fertilizer. If I still had a pickup, I'd probably still gather it.
1 week ago
I have about 57 mature fruit trees in the ground or in pots. Including seedlings and immature trees in pots, maybe about 30 more. Including fruit bushes/vines and nut trees, lots more. I love fruit trees and I love planting them and giving them away, it's fun.
1 week ago
John, thank you for the quick reply. I'm sorry that your Turbo Klone did not seem to work for most of your projects.

Has anyone else on here tried  cloning fruit trees with cloning machines/hydroponics?
1 week ago
I'm not sure what happened to my purple mooseage to John Read, but I couldn't seem to get it to send him a message. Hopefully, he'll be able to reply to my question right here on this thread.
1 week ago