arianna higgins wrote:
Cletus Hatfield wrote: I'm pushing 50, and dating women half my age (milk and wine).
yes but that's not difficult. young women are easier. are they high value?
Value is relative.
I'm a very, very traditionally minded person at my core. Some of the advice and commentary in this thread has, in my opinion, contributed greatly to the circumstances to which I simply adapted. For example, something along the lines of "Does he have a nice truck? Is it paid for?" The question put another way is, "Is he a made man?" Unless he was born into money the odds are that it took him time to become "made". Young women, therefore, frequently advised in such way that it encourages them to favor older men. This is a situation that works against many, maybe most younger men. I'm no longer a young man.
To answer your question of whether or not these younger women are high value, I'd say yes and no. Yes, because they've got the physical attractiveness and advantages that youth provides. They are less likely to have children, be divorced, and be saddled with debt. With regards to emotional maturity, age is just a number.
I'd say no, they frequently aren't high value, but only insofar as their lifestyle conforms to any median. Generally speaking, most people's tastes and experiences are very limited and worse, confined to predefined categories. They listen to the same music, eat the same foods, play the same games, buy the same narratives, and so on and so forth. Their life is a box of boxes that were essentially curated for them and they don't see it. They lack what might be called brain elasticity. Not seeing their limitations, they too often fail to transcend them. They aren't self-actualized, they seem completely unaware of the idea.
I don't mean this in some new-age way. High value, in my opinion, would be someone who appreciates my ambitions (which have nothing to do with a nice truck--I have a rust bucket and I'd prefer to not even have to rely on it), is imaginative but pragmatic, has traditional values (even if they differ from my own), doesn't have a job or at least doesn't want one, has a healthy disrespect of third and fourth wave feminist ideas, and is exceptionally fit, to name a few things that come to mind.
I was visiting my grandmother in the hospital awhile back. Her doctor walked into the room. Very attractive, high energy. Instead of greeting my grandmother she started talking to me. All I had said was hi in my usual emotionally dead way. As I listened to her I was a bit surprised to hear her take a defensive position and work her boyfriend into the monologue. I just continued to listen and shortly she remembered that she was there to check in on my grandmother. I excused myself.
I returned the next day and my grandma told me that the doctor was interested in the stories she had shared about my travels and whatnot. When the doctor entered she had a completely different air about her. Apparently some miracle had happened overnight and now somehow I had a chance. The thing is, she never did. I assumed before she started talking that she was very much tied down by typical burdens and that's not me. And the presumption that I wasn't at least her equal made her quite unattractive. I think most would've seen her as high value. She certainly saw herself as high value. I felt a sense of pity for her. I'd like to imagine that she noticed. Ego is a hell of a drug.
