Nicola Strange

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Thanks Benjamin. I think I will go with your suggestion.

Your build looks great. How's it going?
3 months ago
43" is definitely more user friendly.

I originally planned to go 9":18":36"  for the feed:burn tunnel:riser

f I shortened the riser to 30", would I be looking at 7.5:15:30"? Would this still work well with a 6" system?
3 months ago
Thank you for the suggestion. I'm living in a small mud hut without space to build up in that way.
3 months ago
So I went back to the drawing board incorporating all the advice offered.

I've been trying to design a simple system with a 6" J tube going straight into a bell, with a cooktop on top of the bell. I am having problems however with the resultant height.

From the bottom up I would have:

6" of insulative materials inc. burn tunnel > 36" riser > 8" gap > 3" thickness of bell top

=53" high

Which is too high for a cook top!

What could I do differently to make a more usable system?

I cannot dig into the floor of the hut as we are in a very wet field with multiple shifting springs which look for holes to come through!

If I changed to an L tube, would I be able to have a shorter riser?

Is there something completely different I could do that I haven't thought of?!

3 months ago
That's really helpful thank you. Shame I've already made some 5" chimney pipes! But better to know at this stage.
4 months ago
I was thinking a 5" system as I had read this was a good size. Probably in some of the Aprovecho liturature
4 months ago
Thank you Nancy for embedding the picture- I'm not sure what I'm getting wrong on that.

And thanks Glenn for you feedback.

So perhaps I can either have a hole going straight from the cook top into the bell, or the J-tube going straight into the bell then cooking on the top of the bell.

What mix did you use for your cob rocket?
4 months ago
Thank you Benjamin for your welcome and reply. I've tried to embed the pics- hopefully it'll work...

Yep, no metals, solely clay, earth, grass and sawdust.

I don't think granite will explode as it's a metamorphic rock. It might crack with the extreme heat though.

I thought the gases would go into the bell driven by the draft created by the riser....

I'll think about how to make an access point at the base of the chimney for priming.

Lots to think about and learn!

4 months ago
Hi all.

Thank you for adding me to the forum!

I am currently 3 months into a year living as much as I can off the land, foraging for all my food, plus as much of my living needs as possible (hut, clothes etc). See Nicola's Year on the Land Podcast webpage

I plan to build a stove and chimney into my hut (which has wattle and daub walls & a grass roof) asap, as the British winter is pretty wet and cold enough!

I am limited in materials to what I can reasonably collect around me- so clay, sawdust, grass. Only beach sand which I gather isn’t useful for building.

I’ve put together a stove design which I hope use for cooking and heating. I’ve tried my best to understand the principles involved but am definitely unaware of some of them! Hence, I’d love comments/suggestions from ye wise ones. The stove and chimney represent a massive amount of work (collecting/processing materials, building) and I am relying on them for getting through the winter- so I need a design highly likely to work. I also need to get cracking as I’ll need a couple of months for the whole thing to dry out.

The 1st two pics are schematic diagrams of the front & plan views. Apologies for the quality, I was in my hut without a ruler. The 3rd pic depicts the proposed materials & the 4th an alternative shape to the bell.

J-tube

I was planning a 5”diam round j-tube made with clay and sawdust. I can prefire this in my updraft kiln. The dimension of the tubes are 1:2:4, based on the centre lines.

Above the riser, there’s a hole cut for a pot (lorena style) plus a shaping so I can place a thick (2”) piece of granite over the hole when not cooking. (see bottom pf pic 1 for detail on this).  

Bell

The heat flow is then channelled down an insulated (clay/sawdust) 5” channel down onto a bell, to extract heat from the gases. I was thinking of making the bell from 40% earth, 40% clay & 20% grass. The grass for strength, the earth as thermal mass (would it be?!).

I’ve estimated the bell to need an ISA of 34 square feet. This is based on Peter’s calculations for 6/7/8” systems. I had to estimate as I couldn’t understand how to calculate the ISA for 5”s. Happy to be shown how!

Pic 4 gives an ideal shape for the bell, based on the hut space (small!) & the materials- this would be low, narrow & long. My understanding though is that tall and narrow is better for a bell?

I also wondered if I put a door into the bell, I could use it for cleaning plus access to bake in the bell? I’m not sure that the materials I have would allow regular access without crumbling.

Chimney

I am currently making some 5” clay pipe sections for the upper parts of the chimney, which will be fired. These will make the parts of the chimney which could get wet (through the thatch, outside).

I was thinking of making the lower parts of the chimney from a clay/grass mix. But would it be better for this section to be insulated with sawdust too?

Of course, I could make more pipes with the clay/sawdust mix, so the whole chimney is insulated, if this would be better.

Configuration

At the bottom of pic 2, I suggest a different layout for the components. I don’t think this makes any difference to the suitability of the design...

Materials

Am I using what I can get to it’s best use?  

Perhaps the walls will need to be thicker? I’m balancing the work to gather with the system being strong enough to last 9 months.

1. Front view  

https://imgur.com/KUux5xL

2. Plan view

https://imgur.com/IPRBvBh

3. Materials

https://imgur.com/5MrSLBH

4. Bell shape

https://imgur.com/fkSDb3W
4 months ago