Dave Zoller

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Hi All!

Things have finally slowed down enough that i can think about the coming season and with that start figuring out how we all fit together. In the next week I'll be contacting each of the 15 (!) folks who've contacted us just from this one post and figuring out whats the best fit for every one. A good friend of ours has just purchased a large farm down the road and are looking for hands as well. They're great folks big on goats but they tend to avoid the internet so I'll also be fielding inquiries for them too.

Also, it looks like we'll be housing a small (8-12 student) Montessori-ish school out of the front room of the store between February and May. So, even more kiddos about, but also a great opportunity as the two teachers are happy pass along skills.

Also Also, I bought a dump truck. So that's fun.


Talk to you all soon,
- Dave

Howdy Bill,


I'd imagine you've found yourself a spot by now given your drive. we have an opening both at our property and at our business, the details are below. Good luck, -Dave

This is the copy and paste part:

us:
two folks, Holly and Dave, with three babies. a three year old and two infant twins. We have land, we have space and we have gainful employment. what we don't have is time.
between twin babies and a sustainable landscaping business that just tripled in size our property is...getting mowed, and that's about it. which seems like a shame.

What we are offering:
room and board*
paid labor at a living wage**
engaging farm work***
a good time****

* initially you will be staying in the front room here :
https://www.facebook.com/valleyhillgeneralstore/photos_stream
yup, that's right a genuine 1887 general store. We are building dedicated intern housing but for now you'll have to suffice with 10 ft tall windows and walls covered with antiques.

we'll provide plenty of food, but as we have small children the caveat on the board part of room and board is that it'd be good if you could share in with the cooking.

** I have a sustainable landscaping business it's here:
https://www.facebook.com/victorygardensofkentucky
and here:
http://www.victorygardensofkentucky.com/

and it's a really good year to be be gainfully employed playing in the dirt. we can fit just about any skill set into the schedule so I can assure you one day a week but if it something you excel at we can find more hours.

*** We're on 12 or so acres, with a barn, creek and a slope bedecked with hugulkultur berms (these https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150859142691721&set=a.10150859130936721.395205.711371720&type=3&theater) . Our focus for the next year is prepping for a massive tree planting in the spring. orchard fruit on the hugulkultur slope and natives on the steeper slope and the creek banks. Additionally we are in the process of setting up a nursery to supply the landscaping business.

**** i really like our valley. for instance these are our nearest neighbors http://ourfarmky.wordpress.com/ . Albert who's house you can almost see from here is a professional potter who is always happy to have folks over and a further bike ride is a two other families on our road.
we're a potlucking sort. additionally if you'd like to try your hand at homebrewing, we have a fairly large set up. if you enjoy hiking there's 900 acres attached to our farm with the largest private lake in washington county included.we have canoes and it's a short drive to the salt river. if you'd like to go tubing cartwright creek is a fine waterway after a rain. We also have the lincoln branch which is best for regular creek dipping.

What we are looking for:
A few extra hands*
folks that are good with (or at least don't mind) small children**

* there is a tremendous amount of work to do and it is clearly defined ( I run crews for a living so you don't have to worry about being board sitting around waiting for me to make up my mind). While we would still like to meet you if you don't have a strong work ethic, you probably won't see much of us.

** cause we've got a lot of them.

Howdy Douglas,

I've got paid work and interesting work, sometimes i get them to overlap. regardless there's room, board and plenty of work for you in kentucky if you're still looking.
thanks, - dave

This is the copy and paste part:

us:
two folks, Holly and Dave, with three babies. a three year old and two infant twins. We have land, we have space and we have gainful employment. what we don't have is time.
between twin babies and a sustainable landscaping business that just tripled in size our property is...getting mowed, and that's about it. which seems like a shame.

What we are offering:
room and board*
paid labor at a living wage**
engaging farm work***
a good time****

* initially you will be staying in the front room here :
https://www.facebook.com/valleyhillgeneralstore/photos_stream
yup, that's right a genuine 1887 general store. We are building dedicated intern housing but for now you'll have to suffice with 10 ft tall windows and walls covered with antiques.

we'll provide plenty of food, but as we have small children the caveat on the board part of room and board is that it'd be good if you could share in with the cooking.

** I have a sustainable landscaping business it's here:
https://www.facebook.com/victorygardensofkentucky
and here:
http://www.victorygardensofkentucky.com/

and it's a really good year to be be gainfully employed playing in the dirt. we can fit just about any skill set into the schedule so I can assure you one day a week but if it something you excel at we can find more hours.

*** We're on 12 or so acres, with a barn, creek and a slope bedecked with hugulkultur berms (these https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150859142691721&set=a.10150859130936721.395205.711371720&type=3&theater) . Our focus for the next year is prepping for a massive tree planting in the spring. orchard fruit on the hugulkultur slope and natives on the steeper slope and the creek banks. Additionally we are in the process of setting up a nursery to supply the landscaping business.

**** i really like our valley. for instance these are our nearest neighbors http://ourfarmky.wordpress.com/ . Albert who's house you can almost see from here is a professional potter who is always happy to have folks over and a further bike ride is a two other families on our road.
we're a potlucking sort. additionally if you'd like to try your hand at homebrewing, we have a fairly large set up. if you enjoy hiking there's 900 acres attached to our farm with the largest private lake in washington county included.we have canoes and it's a short drive to the salt river. if you'd like to go tubing cartwright creek is a fine waterway after a rain. We also have the lincoln branch which is best for regular creek dipping.

What we are looking for:
A few extra hands*
folks that are good with (or at least don't mind) small children**

* there is a tremendous amount of work to do and it is clearly defined ( I run crews for a living so you don't have to worry about being board sitting around waiting for me to make up my mind). While we would still like to meet you if you don't have a strong work ethic, you probably won't see much of us.

** cause we've got a lot of them.

Howdy!


We're a bit out of your stated range of travel, and i hope you've found someone you can spend a growing season with but if you're still looking we've got a pile of opportunities for you. We have a small place where we a slowly but surely doing things the right way, and then we have a business that does things as close to the right way as the clients will allow. I would imagine that short of spending an entire growing season with someone this might be a really good fit just due to the diversity of activities. I've written up a description below. regardless, good luck to you! -Dave

This is the copy and paste part:

us:
two folks, Holly and Dave, with three babies. a three year old and two infant twins. We have land, we have space and we have gainful employment. what we don't have is time.
between twin babies and a sustainable landscaping business that just tripled in size our property is...getting mowed, and that's about it. which seems like a shame.

What we are offering:
room and board*
paid labor at a living wage**
engaging farm work***
a good time****

* initially you will be staying in the front room here :
https://www.facebook.com/valleyhillgeneralstore/photos_stream
yup, that's right a genuine 1887 general store. We are building dedicated intern housing but for now you'll have to suffice with 10 ft tall windows and walls covered with antiques.

we'll provide plenty of food, but as we have small children the caveat on the board part of room and board is that it'd be good if you could share in with the cooking.

** I have a sustainable landscaping business it's here:
https://www.facebook.com/victorygardensofkentucky
and here:
http://www.victorygardensofkentucky.com/

and it's a really good year to be be gainfully employed playing in the dirt. we can fit just about any skill set into the schedule so I can assure you one day a week but if it something you excel at we can find more hours.

*** We're on 12 or so acres, with a barn, creek and a slope bedecked with hugulkultur berms (these https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150859142691721&set=a.10150859130936721.395205.711371720&type=3&theater) . Our focus for the next year is prepping for a massive tree planting in the spring. orchard fruit on the hugulkultur slope and natives on the steeper slope and the creek banks. Additionally we are in the process of setting up a nursery to supply the landscaping business.

**** i really like our valley. for instance these are our nearest neighbors http://ourfarmky.wordpress.com/ . Albert who's house you can almost see from here is a professional potter who is always happy to have folks over and a further bike ride is a two other families on our road.
we're a potlucking sort. additionally if you'd like to try your hand at homebrewing, we have a fairly large set up. if you enjoy hiking there's 900 acres attached to our farm with the largest private lake in washington county included.we have canoes and it's a short drive to the salt river. if you'd like to go tubing cartwright creek is a fine waterway after a rain. We also have the lincoln branch which is best for regular creek dipping.

What we are looking for:
A few extra hands*
folks that are good with (or at least don't mind) small children**

* there is a tremendous amount of work to do and it is clearly defined ( I run crews for a living so you don't have to worry about being board sitting around waiting for me to make up my mind). While we would still like to meet you if you don't have a strong work ethic, you probably won't see much of us.

** cause we've got a lot of them.

Howdy,

It sounds like we'd be a good fit for you early next spring but if you haven't found an ideal spot, I've got 11 acres for you to work with over the next year. primarily we're looking at orchard crops, but also natives for the landscaping business. This year is a lot of set up but if you're a good fit there could easily be a full time nurseryman position once we're up and running. there's some details below. good luck to you! -Dave

This is the copy and paste part:

us:
two folks, Holly and Dave, with three babies. a three year old and two infant twins. We have land, we have space and we have gainful employment. what we don't have is time.
between twin babies and a sustainable landscaping business that just tripled in size our property is...getting mowed, and that's about it. which seems like a shame.

What we are offering:
room and board*
paid labor at a living wage**
engaging farm work***
a good time****

* initially you will be staying in the front room here :
https://www.facebook.com/valleyhillgeneralstore/photos_stream
yup, that's right a genuine 1887 general store. We are building dedicated intern housing but for now you'll have to suffice with 10 ft tall windows and walls covered with antiques.

we'll provide plenty of food, but as we have small children the caveat on the board part of room and board is that it'd be good if you could share in with the cooking.

** I have a sustainable landscaping business it's here:
https://www.facebook.com/victorygardensofkentucky
and here:
http://www.victorygardensofkentucky.com/

and it's a really good year to be be gainfully employed playing in the dirt. we can fit just about any skill set into the schedule so I can assure you one day a week but if it something you excel at we can find more hours.

*** We're on 12 or so acres, with a barn, creek and a slope bedecked with hugulkultur berms (these https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150859142691721&set=a.10150859130936721.395205.711371720&type=3&theater) . Our focus for the next year is prepping for a massive tree planting in the spring. orchard fruit on the hugulkultur slope and natives on the steeper slope and the creek banks. Additionally we are in the process of setting up a nursery to supply the landscaping business.

**** i really like our valley. for instance these are our nearest neighbors http://ourfarmky.wordpress.com/ . Albert who's house you can almost see from here is a professional potter who is always happy to have folks over and a further bike ride is a two other families on our road.
we're a potlucking sort. additionally if you'd like to try your hand at homebrewing, we have a fairly large set up. if you enjoy hiking there's 900 acres attached to our farm with the largest private lake in washington county included.we have canoes and it's a short drive to the salt river. if you'd like to go tubing cartwright creek is a fine waterway after a rain. We also have the lincoln branch which is best for regular creek dipping.

What we are looking for:
A few extra hands*
folks that are good with (or at least don't mind) small children**

* there is a tremendous amount of work to do and it is clearly defined ( I run crews for a living so you don't have to worry about being board sitting around waiting for me to make up my mind). While we would still like to meet you if you don't have a strong work ethic, you probably won't see much of us.

** cause we've got a lot of them.

how hooked on arizona are you? we've got an opening in KY described below. good luck to you in any case! -Dave

This is the copy and paste part:

us:
two folks, Holly and Dave, with three babies. a three year old and two infant twins. We have land, we have space and we have gainful employment. what we don't have is time.
between twin babies and a sustainable landscaping business that just tripled in size our property is...getting mowed, and that's about it. which seems like a shame.

What we are offering:
room and board*
paid labor at a living wage**
engaging farm work***
a good time****

* initially you will be staying in the front room here :
https://www.facebook.com/valleyhillgeneralstore/photos_stream
yup, that's right a genuine 1887 general store. We are building dedicated intern housing but for now you'll have to suffice with 10 ft tall windows and walls covered with antiques.

we'll provide plenty of food, but as we have small children the caveat on the board part of room and board is that it'd be good if you could share in with the cooking.

** I have a sustainable landscaping business it's here:
https://www.facebook.com/victorygardensofkentucky
and here:
http://www.victorygardensofkentucky.com/

and it's a really good year to be be gainfully employed playing in the dirt. we can fit just about any skill set into the schedule so I can assure you one day a week but if it something you excel at we can find more hours.

*** We're on 12 or so acres, with a barn, creek and a slope bedecked with hugulkultur berms (these https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150859142691721&set=a.10150859130936721.395205.711371720&type=3&theater) . Our focus for the next year is prepping for a massive tree planting in the spring. orchard fruit on the hugulkultur slope and natives on the steeper slope and the creek banks. Additionally we are in the process of setting up a nursery to supply the landscaping business.

**** i really like our valley. for instance these are our nearest neighbors http://ourfarmky.wordpress.com/ . Albert who's house you can almost see from here is a professional potter who is always happy to have folks over and a further bike ride is a two other families on our road.
we're a potlucking sort. additionally if you'd like to try your hand at homebrewing, we have a fairly large set up. if you enjoy hiking there's 900 acres attached to our farm with the largest private lake in washington county included.we have canoes and it's a short drive to the salt river. if you'd like to go tubing cartwright creek is a fine waterway after a rain. We also have the lincoln branch which is best for regular creek dipping.

What we are looking for:
A few extra hands*
folks that are good with (or at least don't mind) small children**

* there is a tremendous amount of work to do and it is clearly defined ( I run crews for a living so you don't have to worry about being board sitting around waiting for me to make up my mind). While we would still like to meet you if you don't have a strong work ethic, you probably won't see much of us.

** cause we've got a lot of them.

hi!

I hope you've found what you're looking for. If not we have a situation that could become what you are looking for i'll copy the details below,

thanks-Dave



This is the copy and paste part:

us:
two folks, Holly and Dave, with three babies. a three year old and two infant twins. We have land, we have space and we have gainful employment. what we don't have is time.
between twin babies and a sustainable landscaping business that just tripled in size our property is...getting mowed, and that's about it. which seems like a shame.

What we are offering:
room and board*
paid labor at a living wage**
engaging farm work***
a good time****

* initially you will be staying in the front room here :
https://www.facebook.com/valleyhillgeneralstore/photos_stream
yup, that's right a genuine 1887 general store. We are building dedicated intern housing but for now you'll have to suffice with 10 ft tall windows and walls covered with antiques.

we'll provide plenty of food, but as we have small children the caveat on the board part of room and board is that it'd be good if you could share in with the cooking.

** I have a sustainable landscaping business it's here:
https://www.facebook.com/victorygardensofkentucky
and here:
http://www.victorygardensofkentucky.com/

and it's a really good year to be be gainfully employed playing in the dirt. we can fit just about any skill set into the schedule so I can assure you one day a week but if it something you excel at we can find more hours.

*** We're on 12 or so acres, with a barn, creek and a slope bedecked with hugulkultur berms (these https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150859142691721&set=a.10150859130936721.395205.711371720&type=3&theater) . Our focus for the next year is prepping for a massive tree planting in the spring. orchard fruit on the hugulkultur slope and natives on the steeper slope and the creek banks. Additionally we are in the process of setting up a nursery to supply the landscaping business.

**** i really like our valley. for instance these are our nearest neighbors http://ourfarmky.wordpress.com/ . Albert who's house you can almost see from here is a professional potter who is always happy to have folks over and a further bike ride is a two other families on our road.
we're a potlucking sort. additionally if you'd like to try your hand at homebrewing, we have a fairly large set up. if you enjoy hiking there's 900 acres attached to our farm with the largest private lake in washington county included.we have canoes and it's a short drive to the salt river. if you'd like to go tubing cartwright creek is a fine waterway after a rain. We also have the lincoln branch which is best for regular creek dipping.

What we are looking for:
A few extra hands*
folks that are good with (or at least don't mind) small children**

* there is a tremendous amount of work to do and it is clearly defined ( I run crews for a living so you don't have to worry about being board sitting around waiting for me to make up my mind). While we would still like to meet you if you don't have a strong work ethic, you probably won't see much of us.

** cause we've got a lot of them.

Howdy!

I'm normally only on in the winter, but this season has proved more busy than usual. So this is the first place I turned to find a helping hand. Our sustainable landscaping business has tripled in size, and our family has almost tripled in size (twins!). Which leaves little time for continuing our work on our land. Rather than wait a year for things to settle down I really want to bring someone in to be excited about the land while I'm tied up. The big push is setting up a nursery and prepping for orchard plantings but like any small holding there's a million others things to be done.

I went ahead and formalized things below just so I could respond individually to everybody looking for work and give the full picture without retyping everything...

This is the copy and paste part:

us:
two folks, Holly and Dave, with three babies. a three year old and two infant twins. We have land, we have space and we have gainful employment. what we don't have is time.
between twin babies and a sustainable landscaping business that just tripled in size our property is...getting mowed, and that's about it. which seems like a shame.

What we are offering:
room and board*
paid labor at a living wage**
engaging farm work***
a good time****

* initially you will be staying in the front room here :
https://www.facebook.com/valleyhillgeneralstore/photos_stream
yup, that's right a genuine 1887 general store. We are building dedicated intern housing but for now you'll have to suffice with 10 ft tall windows and walls covered with antiques.

we'll provide plenty of food, but as we have small children the caveat on the board part of room and board is that it'd be good if you could share in with the cooking.

** I have a sustainable landscaping business it's here:
https://www.facebook.com/victorygardensofkentucky
and here:
http://www.victorygardensofkentucky.com/

and it's a really good year to be be gainfully employed playing in the dirt. we can fit just about any skill set into the schedule so I can assure you one day a week but if it something you excel at we can find more hours.

*** We're on 12 or so acres, with a barn, creek and a slope bedecked with hugulkultur berms (these https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150859142691721&set=a.10150859130936721.395205.711371720&type=3&theater) . Our focus for the next year is prepping for a massive tree planting in the spring. orchard fruit on the hugulkultur slope and natives on the steeper slope and the creek banks. Additionally we are in the process of setting up a nursery to supply the landscaping business.

**** i really like our valley. for instance these are our nearest neighbors http://ourfarmky.wordpress.com/ . Albert who's house you can almost see from here is a professional potter who is always happy to have folks over and a further bike ride is a two other families on our road.
we're a potlucking sort. additionally if you'd like to try your hand at homebrewing, we have a fairly large set up. if you enjoy hiking there's 900 acres attached to our farm with the largest private lake in washington county included.we have canoes and it's a short drive to the salt river. if you'd like to go tubing cartwright creek is a fine waterway after a rain. We also have the lincoln branch which is best for regular creek dipping.

What we are looking for:
A few extra hands*
folks that are good with (or at least don't mind) small children**

* there is a tremendous amount of work to do and it is clearly defined ( I run crews for a living so you don't have to worry about being board sitting around waiting for me to make up my mind). While we would still like to meet you if you don't have a strong work ethic, you probably won't see much of us.

** cause we've got a lot of them.

there's an acre and a half of SE facing slope below our house site set aside for orchards. the access rd. runs through it and is presently the primary drainage path through that part of the property. it delivers water to a seasonal creek that will be dammed but not terribly high due to site constraints.

i know i could put small ponds on the hill to catch water but i can't bring myself to put ponds where i can put fruit trees.

my question is, is there a pattern where i can best slow the water  and keep it on my site?

my guess is that traditional contour lines will work better than a key line based layout.

we are planning to put hugelkultur beds on the downhill side of the rows of trees.

thanks!