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I think if we get a lot of input from everyone here, this could be a super valuable resource for figuring out which fruit trees and berries will grow best in your area.

You are in the right spot if you are in a Dry climate hardiness zone 10.

If you think you are not in the right spot or you want to check your climate zone and hardiness zone for sure, click on the main thread to find out and get additional information Fruit Trees and Berries that Grow Best in Your Area Naturally and it will have a link to your specific climate zone and hardiness zone for you to post!

Familiar places in this area...

Los Angeles, CA, USA


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This list won't be perfect, as there are so many different factors that affect a fruit tree's growth, but it should be a good help by seeing which trees do well for others in a similar area who have had success with a particular variety. By growing trees that are already slightly adapted to your area, saving the seeds, and growing new fruit trees, you could help create many more new varieties that are very adapted to your specific area!

Hardiness zones are one important factor and show the average annual minimum temperature for a location. You can click on https://garden.org/nga/zipzone/index.php?zip=27822&q=find_zone&submit=Go+%3E to find your exact hardiness zone, and there are also links to lots of other good information.


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Fruit tree nurseries usually list hardiness zones for their fruit trees, but I've often found they tend to exaggerate the growing zones and are often unreliable.

They often leave out one very important aspect... climate zones.

What is a climate zone you may ask?

A climate zone takes other important things into consideration, such as humidity and rainfall. There are many different subsets and climate zones, but I believe this website does a great job of simplifying it into a few main climate zones...

A) Tropical- hot and humid, average temperatures are greater than 64°F (18°C) year-round and there is more than 59 inches of precipitation each year

B) Dry- dry (not humid) and little precipitation

C) Temperate- warm and humid summers with thunderstorms and mild winters

D) Continental- warm to cool summers and very cold winters. In the winter, this zone can experience snowstorms, strong winds, and very cold temperatures—sometimes falling below -22°F (-30°C)!



If you live in the US, you should be able to tell your general climate zone based on the map below and the descriptions above of what it should be like there.

I couldn't find a great general map for Canada and other countries, but you should be able to generally tell from the descriptions above. If you want to find out your exact climate zone, you can check out a cool map here World Climate Zones to find your zone with links at the bottom of the page based on the color, that you can click on with detailed information of your climate zone.


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This should be a huge help to others with that same climate and hardiness zone to help them decide what to plant!

If you could post your general location in your state or country with your reply, that would be an awesome help!

The trees should be able to grow well naturally without extensive disease or pest control.
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I think I'm doing this right - I live in Zone 10a - Dry, and fruit trees and berries that grow well in my area(from experience/sightings, not from the books):

Citrus
Avocado
Fig
Pomegranate
Carob
Mulberry
Strawberry Guava(Cattley)
Cherimoya
Loquat
Macadamia
Strawberries

Traditionally ornamental and/or native, but still edible:
Natal Plum
Brush Cherry/Magenta lilly pilly
Pyracantha
Opuntia & Cereus Genera Cacti
Agave
Manzanita
Sumac
Oak
Pine
 
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Forgot to add one a few more - Passionfruit and Olives!
 
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Dustin Rhodes wrote:I think I'm doing this right - I live in Zone 10a - Dry, and fruit trees and berries that grow well in my area(from experience/sightings, not from the books):

Citrus
Avocado
Fig
Pomegranate
Carob
Mulberry
Strawberry Guava(Cattley)
Cherimoya
Loquat
Macadamia
Strawberries

Traditionally ornamental and/or native, but still edible:
Natal Plum
Brush Cherry/Magenta lilly pilly
Pyracantha
Opuntia & Cereus Genera Cacti
Agave
Manzanita
Sumac
Oak
Pine



Great list Dustin!
 
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With irrigation or without?
 
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Nathanael Szobody wrote:With irrigation or without?



Preferably without, but I know in your dry climate that could be extremely challenging and limiting. If you noted which ones you used irrigation for and which ones you didn't, I think that would be super helpful information!
 
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Steve Thorn wrote:

Nathanael Szobody wrote:With irrigation or without?



Preferably without, but I know in your dry climate that could be extremely challenging and limiting. If you noted which ones you used irrigation for and which ones you didn't, I think that would be super helpful information!



I guess I'm really in more of a zone 12, so if I can grow it, so can you
Without irrigation:

Baobab
Marula
Jujube Senegal
Tamarind
Guddaim (Grewia tenax); this one is my all-time favorite. It is a wild bush in northern Sahel that grows kind of like a wild rose bush. I grow it in my yard. The fruit are tiny--like currents and pretty dry when ripe. They are LOADED in iron, calcium and potassium. Soaked in water they produce a juice somewhere between peach and guava flavored.

With irrigation, anything tropical. In addition to those already mentioned I have:

Banana
Papaya
Guava
Mango
Date palm

But really, anything tropical. Start with bananas and papayas, because they grow quickly and can provide microclimate for starting other stuff.



 
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Nathanael Szobody wrote:I guess I'm really in more of a zone 12, so if I can grow it, so can you
Without irrigation:

Baobab
Marula
Jujube Senegal
Tamarind
Guddaim (Grewia tenax); this one is my all-time favorite. It is a wild bush in northern Sahel that grows kind of like a wild rose bush. I grow it in my yard. The fruit are tiny--like currents and pretty dry when ripe. They are LOADED in iron, calcium and potassium. Soaked in water they produce a juice somewhere between peach and guava flavored.

With irrigation, anything tropical. In addition to those already mentioned I have:

Banana
Papaya
Guava
Mango
Date palm

But really, anything tropical. Start with bananas and papayas, because they grow quickly and can provide microclimate for starting other stuff.



I'll get a new thread made soon for Dry Climate Hardiness zone 12 so you can copy this there once it's done if you want!

Great list Nathanael, lots of interesting fruits!
 
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