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Food

If you are coming as a boot, we provide basic staples.  Mostly vegan, with some eggs and sometimes fish and cheese.   If you enjoy a richer diet, you might want to bring your favorite stuff.  We don't provide coffee, but we do provide tea - so if you are a coffee drinker you might want to get that.  

If you are coming to a workshop or event:  Some events are basically extensions of the bootcamp - so you get the same staples and you cook for yourself.  Some events might have somebody cooking food, which you can have - but it might not be what you are keen on.  

If you are coming as a SEPPER, Ant or deeproots, you generally provide your own food, but if you help in the bootcamp for half a day, you can join the boots for a meal.   If you help for a full day, you can join the boots for three meals.  

Reasons why you might want to bring a LOT of snacks:

402:  Maybe sometimes the food served is not the stuff you think is the tastiest.

403:  Sometimes the food served does not meet your dietary restrictions.

404:  Sometimes you like to eat your food at a time that is different than when the food is served.

405:  you like lots of tasty snacks between meals.

406:  you are socially awkward, but if you share snacks with others, you make "friends."  

407:  you have some sort of super cool food you would like other folks to try.

408:  you stopped by missoula and found some really cool stuff to try.  

408.1:  and for the other folks in class

409:  In the evenings, you like to spend a little time sitting around a campfire eating snacks

410:  You want to experiment with the many rocket cook stoves, TLUD cook stoves, solar ovens, etc.


maybe bringing something for the community pot:

507:  maybe you are bringing some beef, chicken, pork or cui you raised yourself!

508:  maybe you did a bit of a walkabout and scored a bunch of morel mushrooms, or other wildcrafted foods.

509:  maybe you were at the farmers market on the day off and you picked up a bunch of fun things to add to a meal

510:  maybe on the day off, you stopped by the good food store and thought "ham, everybody should have more ham."



Safety Gear

- safety glasses
- ear protection
- gloves
- water bottle
- small backback with a first aid kit
- good work boots


Tools

We will provide all the tools for all the tasks, but some people develop a deep relationship with their tools and like to bring their own.



Clothes

It can get cold in montana.  And we work outside.   The key to working outside when it is cold is layers.  Natural materials are best:  wool and silk.  Cotton is good for cooling.  In a cold climate, there is the expression "cotton kills", although many people seem to do just fine with a lot of cotton.


Tent and Sleeping bag and stuff

All boots will get a warm bunk in the winter.  And most boots are offered a bunk in the summer, but seem to prefer the privacy of a tent.  

We have a few tents, sleeping bags, pads and cots that people have donated over the years.  I think we could use a few more ...



Your junk is our treasure

Maybe you are driving here and have some stuff that didn't sell in your last yard sale.  You can drop it off here and we will try to put it to use.

- hand tools
- nuts, bolts, screws, doo-dads, wire, rope, hose clamps, washers, all thread, nails, doomaflotchies, hooks, pipe, hose, cotter pins, spring pins, zircs ...
- blankets and pillows
- broken (yet repairable) tools
- books (fiction and non-fiction)
- fishing gear
- bows, arrows, targets ...
- duct, stovepipe, brick (especially clay brick)
- metal barrels - espeically the ones that are smaller than 55 gallon.
- wood barrels, or even wood half barrels
- lumber (nothing with glue, like plywood, waferboard or particle board please)
- hardwood branches or logs for making handles or other projects
- lawn chairs
- tents
- sleeping bags
- wool: hats, socks, blankets, anything. Including raw wool
- steel scraps for welding bits and bobs (we have a welder and a plasma cutter)
- metal roofing
- cedar shakes
- bicycles and all sorts of bike parts/tools/baskets/racks/etc.
- plates, cups, utensils, knives ... all sorts of kitchen gear
- seeds and plants



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I have to confess, that for years it has been crazy expensive as stuff just disappears.  We have to buy mountains of new gloves and safety glasses.  And dishes.  I guess they just wind up people's cars as they leave.  

And I hear from other sites that say that they accumulate mountains of the same things.  

The difference is that those places provide a "what to bring" document.   And then people tend to bring too much stuff and leave a lot of it.  

I'm such an idiot!  We should have created this document years ago!
 
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Paul. Eric here. I have not received permission from you to come to your place. If you give me the go ahead, I will need directions. We are coming from the East on I-90 We are self contained so you will not have to do anything special for us. I would just like to look at your kitchen facilities and your shop. It would be nice to meet you, but if not ok. We refigured our arrival time to be on the 24th of Aug. We have a bunch of stuff that you have on this list that we will bring.

 
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Eric VonRaderson wrote:Paul. Eric here. I have not received permission from you to come to your place. If you give me the go ahead, I will need directions. We are coming from the East on I-90 We are self contained so you will not have to do anything special for us. I would just like to look at your kitchen facilities and your shop. It would be nice to meet you, but if not ok. We refigured our arrival time to be on the 24th of Aug. We have a bunch of stuff that you have on this list that we will bring.



I just sent you an email ...
 
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An extension of 403/510: Generally speaking, bringing coffee enough for one to enjoy (or better yet, share) is a good idea.

Specific to right now, I daresay y'all are overstocked on coffee.


I personally try to take the approach of "I'm a houseguest, not a hotel guest."
 
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Ash Jackson wrote:I personally try to take the approach of "I'm a houseguest, not a hotel guest."



I think this is a HUGE and important distinction. I think people often view Wheaton Labs as an event place. I know I did for a long time. And then one day I was sitting and chatting with Jocelyn and Paul, and it hit me, "How would I feel if I had people constantly in and around my house? In my kitchen? Camping on my land?" That was terrifying to think about! (I'm an introvert, so it was extra terrifying)

Wheaton Labs isn't just a cool place to learn and make awesome things happen. It's Paul's home. It's Jen and Fred and Josiah's home. I think the mental distinction between house guest and hotel guest is so important!
 
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510.1, The Good Food Store or The Natural Grocers on Reserve
 
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Add a temperature range for us out-of-state visitors under the 'clothing' sections.

We weren't fully prepared for 102 degree days!  The weather report we looked at was for 90 degrees, and that 10 degrees is a huge difference!
 
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We haven't seen 100 degrees for five years ...
 
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Yeah, but it happened Just posting a range "summers are typically in the 90's from 2-5 p.m., with occasional bouts up to 100.  Evening lows range from 45-60.  
Winter lows are typically (what, 10 degrees?) and dip as low as (-20?)
 
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It seems about half the winters here, we don't go below zero, but we get close.

Last winter got us to half a degree below zero.  

We did have a winter going down to 12 below, and our first winter went to 26 below.
 
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I live over in the mild Seattle area. When people talk about weather here, no one ever says it gets over 100. We usually tell people it's usually in the 70s and 80s, and sometimes in the 90s. Some areas here did get up to 100 for 1 day this year (the same hot weather that then went to Montana). But, that was really rare.

The problem is, our weather is a lot crazier now than it was when I was a kid. We never quite know what to expect. For example, for two years in a row we hand a months of just forest fire smoke blocking out the sun and polluting the air. That NEVER happened when I was a kid. I never would have told someone moving to the Pacific Northwest to come ready to deal with a month of smoke where you can't go outside.

It's sad we can't trust our historical climate knowledge. I guess Paul could have mentioned, "These are our normal weather ranges. But, you know, the climate is wonky now. So, your guess is as good as mine as to what the weather will be. Who knows, maybe it'll snow in August. Maybe it'll be 100 in May. We'll all just have to make the best of it."
 
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