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On a recent update, somebody commented

Please help me understand: the campaign says, "$59,572 pledged of $8,860 goal." Was $8,860 not the goal? (I guess it is not, since you are saying it is stuck; so what is the target goal?)



and I responded

$8860 was the goal. We are funded. The book is going to exist.

If we bring in more, we get more books into more brains, and the extra funds go to other projects. So we wish to proceed, if we can.

For those that have participated in some of our past kickstarters, we did manage to hit a lot of stretch goals, making the rewards package very heavy. We hope to ahieve that again this year, but with all new stretch goals.

Does this help?




When the kickstarter starts, there is a strong chance that the whole idea is a dud and we won't get funded at all.   Fortunately, we are funded!   We have 30 days so we explore getting funded more.  Do we get a little more?  A lot more?  A huge amount more?  Why bother?

Reasons to keep going:

  - the better we do, the more we show up on kickstarter searches and, thus, infect more brains with our permaculture ideas

  - more coin for future projects

  - accelerates all of our efforts at wheaton labs

  - subsidizes our summer events

  - subsidizes the development of the free SKIP program software

  - helps to make SKIP free

  - maybe we can get some publicity for the book that actually works

        - and maybe some of that can work for the BWB book too

  - I am thinking of using some of the funds to get my youtube channel running strong again



Anybody have more reasons?




 
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paul wheaton wrote:Anybody have more reasons?


By hitting a bunch of stretch goals for the Greenhouse kickstarter, Paul was able to pay for a well up at the lab which is where they're developing their natural building solutions

If the stretch goal pile gets huge enough, hopefully people from all over will be attracted to the campaign and our permaculture ideas will "go viral"

More stretch goals means more collaborations with other authors, youtubers, movie makers, etc.  Building connections between permies and these people is a very good thing

Each stretch goal costs us money.  But it puts money in the hand of those authors, youtubers and movie makers.  So we're helping their efforts as we collaborate on our effort
 
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paul wheaton wrote:stretch ....  stretch ....  stretch ....  


.....   so close ...  



 
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paul wheaton wrote:

  - subsidizes the development of the free SKIP program software



Gimmie gimmie!
 
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paul wheaton wrote:stretch ....  stretch ....  stretch ....  


.....   so close ...  



It's $91 away now. SO. VERY. CLOSE!
 
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Ooo, lookit...

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Blammo!  $60,039

 
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Paul, I think you meant to say:


  $60,094!




 
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can't wait for my SKIP book
 
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Such an AMAZING amount of education on this Kickstarter! Absolutely awesome!!
If you are on the fence about sponsoring, JUMP!!!
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:I couldn't resist meme-ing!

Ha, I love that!  I wish someone had “SKIP-slapped” me as a teenager so I wouldn’t pay for college to eventually get a soul sucking job and then later wish I’d done things very differently!  I’m hoping to help others avoid my path with this book. If only we could send stuff back to our younger selves...BAM!!!

 
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For those who don't already know, the next stretch goal is a live webinar with Michael Judd.  He'll talk about "Water Harvesting and Soil Building" for about 45 minutes and then take questions for 15-30 minutes.  It will likely be on Zoom and we'll record it and the recording will also be given to backers at the $65 level and up.  We're not sure the exact date and time but it will likely be in June.  

 
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I'm having to budget, and can only back so much at a time. So, if I go up a level at a time, will that still get me there, before it's over, for all the things??? I'm at the$25 level now (plus the $10 shipping, because I wanna hold it in my hands). In a week or so, I should be able to go up to the $45 level, but it might be a couple more weeks, before I can push up to the $65 level. Am I going to be too late, too get in on it?
 
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It ends in 24 days so I'm not sure if that's long enough or not...  

If the shipping gets to be horrible you can do the trick where you back at $15 (plus shipping) to get one book and then use a different credit card and back at the $65 level, selecting US Virgin Islands to get free shipping, to get the rest of the goodies.  I'm not sure if that would save you money but it likely would for folks overseas...
 
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Carla Burke wrote:I'm having to budget, and can only back so much at a time. So, if I go up a level at a time, will that still get me there, before it's over, for all the things??? I'm at the$25 level now (plus the $10 shipping, because I wanna hold it in my hands). In a week or so, I should be able to go up to the $45 level, but it might be a couple more weeks, before I can push up to the $65 level. Am I going to be too late, too get in on it?



You can upgrade at any time during the kickstarter to get all the stretch goal goodies. So, if on the last day of the kickstarter you're able to up your pledge to $65, you'll get all the goodstuff. If you try to pledge after the kickstarter, it won't go through, and you won't get the $65 stretch goals. So, like Mike said, you've got 24 days, which is three weeks. Hopefully that's enough time!
 
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Thank you!! Crossing my fingers!!
 
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I just backed the Kickstarter! Looking forward to all the goodies, and to sharing them at http://www.catintheflock.com.
 
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  $61,114!




 
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I love that there's over 1,500 backers. That over half of what we had for the Building a Better World, or Greenhouse Kicktarter, and we're only 7 days into it!

It really encourages me to see how many are supportive of this idea. SKIP has had such a positive effect on my life, and I've learned so much through it. I love the thought of more people being empowered by SKIP!
 
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This is gonna be ....   different ....   but I had a bunch of thoughts this morning and I wrote this.   Maybe this is a bad idea.  I wrote it with the idea that it could go into a dailyish ...  

Feedback please:

This paul the profiteer.  

In 1994 I was the author of some very popular software.  I was contacted by a guy that worked for a non-profit.  He asked me to make a long list of modifications to my software and give it to him, for free, because it was for a non-profit.  It struck me that he was being paid handsomely to make the phone call and I was being paid nothing.  Further, if he was not being being paid, he would contribute nothing to the non-profit.  

I suspect that there are tens of thousands of non-profit organizations that claim to do what permies.com does, but they don't do even 1%.  And somehow, their operating capital is 100 times more than all of my empire, with a director making a professional wage.

I live off of my old passive income, most of which funds projects.  I've done the math and learned that I keep about 80 cents per hour. Permies.com runs in the red and is managed entirely by volunteers.  The SKIP program and the SKIP book is created entirely by volunteers.  Any leftover kickstarter income goes to projects.

How do non profit organizations operate? Grants? Donations? Fund raisers? Fancy parties? Maybe if I understood any of that, we would have a ten times stronger forward velocity. But I'm just not wired that way.

The kickstarters provide funding to cover the server bill at permies.com, development of software enhancements (including for SKIP) and all the projects at wheaton labs.  Even our events at wheaton labs are heavily subsidized by the kickstarters.  

At the same time, I see other kickstarters and they are asking for $100 for something that they intend to sell later for $60.  Their $10 level is some sort of vague "warm thoughts in your general direction."  And they get millions.  I am baffled.  

I think that the $10 level on the SKIP kickstarter not only provides you with the product, but about $100 of really substantial stuff. So much stuff, that even if we gave the SKIP book away for free later, you still did better backing the kickstarter than not.  

I suppose you could say that this is our annual fundraiser.  The more that comes in, the stronger our forward velocity for the year.  Last year there were thousands of non-profits that had an operating budget over $20 million.  Our kickstarter, last year, brought in $97k (and kickstarter takes 10% of that).  After project expenses, we had enough to put in a new well.  

I'm a little surprised that I have ended up in charge of so much stuff that is making such a big difference.  And I am a little worried that I am doing this all wrong.  But this path just seems "more right" to me.  

More about the profit in non-profit here:

  https://permies.com/t/25373

The mission of wheaton labs:

  https://permies.com/t/24216

The all-free SKIP programs:

  https://permies.com/wiki/skip-pep-bb

Our kickstarter:

  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/skip-0?ref=9tqtnd

I wish to further improve our forward velocity.  Will you tell me how I can do this better?  

  https://permies.com/wiki/skip-book

 
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I just posted this elsewhere (PEPper motivation) and thought it was worth pasting in here:

Mike Haasl wrote:A quick note to all the people pursuing PEP.  I just wanted to let you know that since the kickstarter launched, Paul and I are getting contacted by Otises and Otessas.  THEY ARE OUT THERE.  Some are anxious to make a connection since time might be a bit short.

So if you are pursuing PEP with the intent to inherit property, you might want to accelerate your speed.  Hint hint

I'm just guessing but I suspect if you get to PEP2 and are flexible with where you want to live you will be in a very good position.  No guarantees, of course.

I know of Otises in the US, Canada and Europe so far...


 
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I jsut landed a big fish for a stretch goal!  More info soon!
 
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  $62,215!




 
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As someone who needs to hire help around the farm, what I love most about SKIP isn't just that they are showing they can do the skills, but also showing that they can follow instructions and work within an external framework.  One of the big problems I've had with hired help is that they cannot listen to the way I need it done on my farm because they have ideas of how they think it "should" be done.  Doing the skills within the SKIP framework shows that they can listen and adapt.  
 
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Hi, can someone tell me if this skip book includes Europe, or is it just for American permaculture people?
 
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Rarna Vanda wrote:Hi, can someone tell me if this skip book includes Europe, or is it just for American permaculture people?



When you say "includes Europe" what do you have in mind?
 
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The SKIP program is available to anyone world wide.  The SKIP kickstarter is definitely available world wide.  The 1000+ skills in the book are oriented somewhat towards what Paul thinks is important to permaculture in Montana at his site.  Luckily most of those skills are applicable anywhere in the world.  Does that help?
 
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  $63,015!


 
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Mike Haasl wrote:The SKIP program is available to anyone world wide.  The SKIP kickstarter is definitely available world wide.  The 1000+ skills in the book are oriented somewhat towards what Paul thinks is important to permaculture in Montana at his site.  Luckily most of those skills are applicable anywhere in the world.  Does that help?



Yes thanks Mike, what I meant, is will you include homesteaders who are looking for workers, worldwide. Or are the homesteaders just in America?
 
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Hi Rarna, I'm aware of landowners that are looking for new people to take over their land in the US, Canada and Europe.  There is no limitation on where the people live as far as SKIP is concerned.
 
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Mike Haasl wrote:Hi Rarna, I'm aware of landowners that are looking for new people to take over their land in the US, Canada and Europe.  There is no limitation on where the people live as far as SKIP is concerned.



Great, I will give it a whirl then. Good luck with putting it together, I look forward to seeing the results :D
 
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Finally Got funds to sponsor Looking forward to getting Gifts TY :) https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/skip-0?ref=thanks-copy
 
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Mike Haasl wrote:I just posted this elsewhere (PEPper motivation) and thought it was worth pasting in here:

Mike Haasl wrote:A quick note to all the people pursuing PEP.  I just wanted to let you know that since the kickstarter launched, Paul and I are getting contacted by Otises and Otessas.  THEY ARE OUT THERE.  Some are anxious to make a connection since time might be a bit short.

So if you are pursuing PEP with the intent to inherit property, you might want to accelerate your speed.  Hint hint

I'm just guessing but I suspect if you get to PEP2 and are flexible with where you want to live you will be in a very good position.  No guarantees, of course.

I know of Otises in the US, Canada and Europe so far...




Interesting to hear, Mike. Do you have data to back up Paul's claim in the Kickstarter description of "millions" of these Otises? I'm on board already as a backer, but I wondered about that. I'm posting a promo on the Kickstarter to my blog soon and want to be prepared for questions. Thanks!
 
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The Kickstarter mentions hundreds of thousands of people, but earlier it does mention millions of acres which are abandoned. One of the goals of SKIP is to create that network of people, as this book and the overall concept grows. Around the world this concept certainly exists, where older landowners either have children who have moved or have no interest in continuing their parents' goals (I have met such a couple), or don't have children. So their property will get sold by the kids or auctioned by the state when they are gone, and all their progress is lost.
 
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  $64,024!



 
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Lisa Brunette wrote:Interesting to hear, Mike. Do you have data to back up Paul's claim in the Kickstarter description of "millions" of these Otises? I'm on board already as a backer, but I wondered about that. I'm posting a promo on the Kickstarter to my blog soon and want to be prepared for questions. Thanks!


New York state had 3.1 million acres of farmland abandoned from '97 to '10.  That tells me there is a lot of land in this world in need of stewardship.

With 7,900,000,000 people on this planet, it's pretty easy to say that 1 in every ten thousand is an Otis and just doesn't know it.  That gives you 790,000 Otises.  I personally think it's more like 1 in every 500.
 
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Paul has asked for input on how to do this better. I think it is important to add a chapter on the legal realities of inheriting. IT COSTS MONEY. The federal government taxes inheritance and so do many states. Many family members who love their family farm and want to keep it, are forced to sell because they don’t have the cash to pay inheritance taxes. Entering into a legal Partnership before the person dies can help. The owner could also sell their property to a permie for a reduced rate, retain life tenancy and “payments” could be made in labor. There are many legal vehicles/structures that can help reduce the tax burden of inheritance. This is a critical section I see lacking. I’m sure there are permie interested lawyers out there who would be willing to help write options for a chapter.
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