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Check out the official web page for this event:



richsoil.com/rmh-workshop.jsp



A big part of the drive for this year's event, is that we want to have lots of people attend the actual five day innovators event. With lots of people here, we think the people will be able to largely assist the innovators and improve the overall forward velocity of global innovation.  

So, we want to price the innovators event portion quite low. Enough to be able to feed the paying students, the work traders, the innovators and all of the people needed to manage an event like this. And the materials. If we sell all the tickets, we should be able to cover some of the travel expenses for innovators, especially those that are coming here from Europe and Australia.

Next, we thought we would offer workshops immediately before the innovators event and immediately after the innovators event. The idea of this would be to help put some money in the pocket of the innovators so they can justify taking so much time away from their regular lives. Plus, this would also help bring people to the innovators event.

And we've chosen a new handle for this year's event:

The rocket mass heater Workshop Jamboree!

Sounds festive, doesn't it? Read on to find out the what, where and when!

Come see what some of the best minds in the rocket mass heater field are cooking up!



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The whole event takes place at wheaton labs, from Friday, October 6 to Tuesday, October 17, 2017.
The event is broken down into 3 smaller events.



rocket mass heater Workshop Jamboree - Part I

The event starts Friday night, October 6 at 6pm and runs through Sunday, October 8 at 5pm.
So it is a weekend, with "Fire Science Theater" thrown in on friday night. 

At any given time there will be different workshops happening simultaneously. 

   - a rocket mass heater build
   - four different sub workshops. One on Saturday morning, one Saturday afternoon, one Sunday morning and one Sunday afternoon


rocket mass heater Workshop Jamboree - Part II
- the 5-day innovators event


Monday, October 9 through Friday, October 13

rocket mass heater workshop Jamboree - Part III

Saturday, October 14 through Tuesday, October 17

Peter van den Berg will lead a very detailed analysis, design and build for an off-grid structure.

We'll update this space as we learn what each innovator will be contributing to this workshop. Stay tuned!

This year's innovators:

Ernie and Erica Wisner



Ernie and Erica Wisner are a couple from Tonasket, WA. They learned about rocket stoves when Ernie apprenticed for Ianto Evans for about two years. Since then they have built over 700 rocket stoves worldwide.

Erica Wisner is the public face of their whole business. She is an experienced educator and project organizer so Ernie often refers to her as “the brains”. She is very passionate about making anything from scratch and helping other people to do so as well. She realizes it takes a while to gain confidence building with raw materials, but she is determined to teach people how to do so as quickly as possible. In her free time she enjoys art, masonry, baking, hiking, gardening, and aikido.

Ernie Wisner is semi-retired because of a disabling injury, but he still attends occasional workshops or special projects. He has extensive experience in everything you could think of regarding boats. He has built them, designed them, and competitively rowed them. Not only does Ernie have wide-range boat and rocket stove expertise, he also has been a firefighter, chocolatier, and ballet dancer.

This fabulous couple now makes their living by offering resources for practical projects. This includes free online information, design plans, and actual workshops on tons of different hands-on skills.


Peter van den Berg



Born 1st of March 1946 in The Hague, Netherlands. Lived in the same town since.
Formal education: Cabinet maker up to master.
Skills: Woodworking, bricklaying, plumbing, welding, plastering, electrical wiring, composites, making molds.
Work: Cabinet maker for 17 years; composite specialist and mold maker at Fokker Aircraft for 17 years; master of boats for Delft University among others, 14 years; retired since 2011.
Interested in efficient wood burning, mostly by way of masonry heaters for the last 30 years.  Tried to make a living building those heaters but gave up after 5 years.
Since 2007 investigating and developing rocket heater variants. Designed and built his own passive, energy neutral house.

Peter's devious plans for the innovators event

For the innovator's event: some experiments done by some people, including myself suggest the direction of the riser in a batchrocket core doesn't need to be vertically up. That is, as long as the flames coming from the firebox are going through a 90 degree turn. So I'd like to do a horizontal "riser" coupled to a batchrocket combustion core.

A "riser" going down from the firebox might be too much to ask but a definite conclusion could only be established through experimentation.

A second experiment, given there's enough time, could be a J-tube Evans' style with an added detail which make the batchrockets "tick".

The workshop after the event could be: a small kitchen heater with a cook top and hopefully also an oven. The heater core could be anything from a standard J-tube up to one of the experimental core mentioned above. This workshop would be taken place in Allerton Abbey, as off-grid as they come.


Tim Barker



Tim has come a long way since his days as a diesel fitter mechanic, and now spends his time between Australia and New Zealand (and sometimes the US), as a semi professional pyromaniac and mad scientist teaching people how to burn stuff and make really cool machines and devices for low carbon living. He currently teaches appropriate technology for the Koanga institute in New Zealand and Very Edible Gardens (VEG) in Melbourne, to name a few.

He has previously been farm manager for the Permaculture research Institute of Australia, power station operator/mechanic, adventure guide and professional turtle wrestler. His rocket stove and char making powered hot water systems, ovens and cookers reflect his passion for elegant simple and durable combustion technologies. Other projects include gravity powered water pumps, solar thermal cookers and dryers, pedal powered washing machines, cargo bikes, hovercraft, wooden boats and aquaponics, to name a few. When he is not tinkering he can be found on Macleay Island off the coast of Queensland Australia, where he and his family live and are currently in the process of building a rammed earth house (with maybe a little sailing thrown in).

He is particularly well known for his safe and effective rocket hot water heating system.He brings practical, hands on experience with some truly fascinating projects to the table - this from the Koanga institute:

"He has the practical knowledge and skills to construct almost any project with limited resources."


Chris McClellan



Uncle Mud (aka Chris McClellan) raises free-range, organic children in the wilds of northeast Ohio. In his spare time he tinkers with, teaches, and publish books about cob building and Rocket Heaters.

Chris' devious plans for this year's innovators event

Greenhouse Heater
One particularly promising application for the RMH is the heating of greenhouses. Where I live in Cleveland a lot of growers install greenhouses but then can't afford the supplimental heat to keep them from freezing. There are challenges (such as damp conditions that limit our use of cob) but extending your growing season without breaking the bank is going to make a big difference at your homestead. We are going to be BOLD on this one. In fact, we are going to skip the greenhouse and build a RMHH (Rocket Mass Heated Hugelkultur) with a large barrel bell buried in the hugel bed just because we can. If we get enough folks helping we'll even add a bench-bell so we can have a place to warm our butts while we brag about our heated core season extender.

Cottage Rocket
Somewhere between a pocket-rocket and a full size RMH there is a thing I call a Cottage Rocket. Spaces like my double-wide trailer or my daughter's two-story treehouse or my friend's school bus need heat, but don't have the space or the support for a large mass. The quick and dirty pocket-rocket is too dirty and burns out too quickly and inefficiently for long term use. The Cottage Rocket uses cob and barrels to make a cheap, longer lasting stove with thermal storage in a small footprint. We will also make a quick-heating low mass bell-bench that gets a bit more heat out of the Cottage Rocket and deposit it right where it needs to be--in your buns.


Kirk Mobert



Kirk is a native Californian with a love of critters, fire, and mud. He's been a natural builder for some time, has taught with Cob Cottage Co. and around California for over a decade. For him, exploring the possibilities and pushing the boundries is where it's at. While Natural Building is ancient, for our culture it's new, and there's still a lot of room for discovery and experimentation.

Kirk's devious plans for this year's innovators event

For the workshops, I'll be building a 4-inch batch box for the Love Shack, and the Rocket Stove Canning Kitchen on a sled.

As an innovation, I want to do some experiments downstream, with the exhaust.

First, I'd like to figure out how fast the exhaust will cool, in masonry (cob) runs; to have a thumbnail rule about changing chimney sizes.
Second, I'd like to see if my idea for extracting the heat out of condensation of exhaust water can be made practical or even worth the trouble.

We will update this space with details on the projects the innovators will be working on.

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The official page, complete with payment stuff:

https://richsoil.com/rmh-workshop.jsp




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For those of you who don't know that this event is happening . . . this event is happening! And it's going to be sooooo cool. Mark the date!
 
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Now!  We are still ironing out the images and a few details of the event.  But the super early bird price is super freaky cheap so people can start buying tickets!

 
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I know that this is kinda nuts.  

The key is that I want to see rocket mass heater innovation move forward.   So what I really want is lots of people here to help the innovators innovate during "part 2".   And as long as I have a whole lot of experts here all at once, the best bait for helpers is the innovators.  

So during "part 1" there will be FOUR workshops happening simultaneously.   People can come and gain experience from all of them, and get a focus on their favorite.

And then during "part 2" it's sorta like there will be SEVEN workshops happening simultaneously, but we don't know, in advance, what each innovator will be working on!

And then during "part 3" there will be three workshops happening simultaneously.

12 full days.  As in the past, people that buy a ticket for the full 12 days get some bonus candy. 

 
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1.   I would very much like to hear feedback on the format of this year's event.  Personally, I think this is gonna be an epic event.

2.   This is the part, much like the pdc, where the people that are regulars on the forum, and the people that actually read the dailyish, get a MASSIVE discount.  And the people that buy tickets later will be paying a much higher price, and they never knew there was such a thing as an "early bird" price, let alone a "super early bird price". 

 
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I will be sending my PayPal grand soon to hold my position.  Being a retired  corporate logistics professional, I AM now researching my logistics strategy from The Angeles County of California to "the Lab".  Any pertinent data toward that move will be greatly appreciated!
 
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So...is this one also going to be streamed/recorded? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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Thyri Gullinvargr wrote:So...is this one also going to be streamed/recorded? Inquiring minds want to know.

Oops.

I replied incorrectly at first. Editing this to say, we do not know yet. To be determined at a later date.
 
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Guadagno Attilio-Cesare wrote:I will be sending my PayPal grand soon to hold my position.  Being a retired  corporate logistics professional, I AM now researching my logistics strategy from The Angeles County of California to "the Lab".  Any pertinent data toward that move will be greatly appreciated!


We are near Missoula, Montana. Are you asking about traveling for this event, or how to move here for longer or permanently?

 
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Jocelyn Campbell wrote:
Guadagno Attilio-Cesare wrote:I will be sending my PayPal grand soon to hold my position.  Being a retired  corporate logistics professional, I AM now researching my logistics strategy from The Angeles County of California to "the Lab".  Any pertinent data toward that move will be greatly appreciated!


We are near Missoula, Montana. Are you asking about traveling for this event, or how to move here for longer or permanently?



Thank you!  Yes, I AM asking about any logistical details such as the timing of air travel prior to and (more specific for me) afterwards.
I have sent a $100 Amazon ecard to paul@richsoil yesterday as my "Gapper" fee and p.m.'d Fred about my intention to "Gapper" / "Boots-to-Roots" beginning at the start of August through to participate in the RMH Workshops Jam...
 
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We already have a handful of folks signed up! Woohoo!!

Questions so far:
Is there a couples discount?

We don't have a couples discount at the super early bird pricing. Paul might consider adding a couples discount to the later prices.

Is there a quiet place to camp, park a trailer, etc.?

There are plenty of quiet places to pitch a tent.

For trailers, RVs, camp trailers, it is a bit of an "it depends" whether there would be a quiet spot or not.

Base camp has lots of parking *lot* space for trailers though to get more "quiet" requires being able to traverse a rocky, windy road up the "volcano."

At least one event will be at the lab which is two miles down the road from base camp (where the main innovators event will happen) with plenty of quiet spaces though the road is pretty rough (maybe even treacherous at times / in bad weather) - high clearance vehicles recommended.

Paul does not want generators running and we do not offer RV hook ups at this time.
 
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I am coming for the first section 10/6-8 but my husband is staying for the whole shebang.  I am seeking a ride to Denver area on the 9th.  If anyone is heading that way, would love to buy your gas in trade for a ride.

Thanks!

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Work trade:  3 spots currently open!


We do work trade here be putting the work trader into our "permaculture boot camp".  There is a good chance that this will involve a fair bit of prep for the event itself.   And for some people, this could be some big learning experiences.   But, really, it's work!   40 hours a week of homesteading stuff.  Full details about our permaculture bootcamp program here

4 weeks of permaculture bootcamp in exchange for attending one part of the jamboree.

6 weeks of permaculture bootcamp in exchange for attending two parts of the jamboree.

8 weeks of permaculture bootcamp in exchange for attending all three parts of the jamboree.


If you wish to attend all three parts of the jamboree as a work trader, you would need to arrive here on august 13th or sooner.





 
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paul wheaton wrote:The main web page is up:  https://richsoil.com/rmh-workshop.jsp

What did I screw up?

I'm being really persnickety by saying "early bird" is usually 2 words. Also, the days of the week are lowercase in the first section instead of uppercase.

I'm wondering about Chris McClellan's section talking about him doing greenhouse and cottage rocket mass heaters, but the part 1 schedule shows the greenhouse/hugelkultur rocket mass heater and part 3 shows the ring of fire rocket mass heater. Finally, is there a detailed schedule for part 3 like there is for part 1?

Other than those minor things that looks great!
 
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I would love to see what you're coming up! Will there be streaming or maybe another DVD available after the event? It was awesome what you were able to do for the ATC!
 
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Kristal Cravener wrote:I would love to see what you're coming up! Will there be streaming or maybe another DVD available after the event? It was awesome what you were able to do for the ATC!


At the end of the PDC and ATC I had a chat with the video guy.   He videoed the two previous PDCs, the previous ATC and the previous rocket mass heater event.   The footage of all that is still collecting dust.   The problem is that the amount of work to do the editing is a lot.  Just to create a 1.5 hour segment of classroom time took 8 hours of editing.  So the live thing, complete with the fancy live equipment, seems to solve that problem.  BUT he thought that while this technique works great for the classroom (PDC) it doesn't work so great for simultaneous projects (ATC/jamboree). 

We then talked about taking the footage from the last rmh event and doing a "quick edit" and offering it in a format that might span several hours.  That would work pretty good.  Of course, people will bitch and moan that "all that" could have been edited down to fit on a single dvd. 

Putting all of that footage into two hours would take about a month of editing.  And, of course, some people will make a big fuss if it is not available in their favorite format (dvd, streaming, download, super hd, 4k, bla, bla, bla) ...   and however you go about doing it, can that person earn enough coin for a month (maybe two) of editing?

At this point in time:  there is discussion.   And it seems that the most likely thing to happen is that the video from the last rmh event might become available. 







 
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Thyri Gullinvargr wrote:
I'm wondering about Chris McClellan's section talking about him doing greenhouse and cottage rocket mass heaters, but the part 1 schedule shows the greenhouse/hugelkultur rocket mass heater and part 3 shows the ring of fire rocket mass heater. Finally, is there a detailed schedule for part 3 like there is for part 1?


Good catch!  Working on it ....
 
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Discussion is good. Discussion is great! If it happens, regardless of editing or making it beautiful, even if it's just a few video clips or pictures and a forum post about the general highlights of the day, I'm very interested in the latest rocket mass heater you and the innovators are trying out and coming up with. Based on how fast funds were raised for the last kickstarter, it feels like a lot of others are interested in getting to see all the awesome stuff you do and the projects you're working on as well. I just wanted to toss my two cents in the ring, I'm interested in any form you make it available in. If it's from the last event (2016, right?) then so be it, I will look forward to it.



A somewhat off topic rambling side note: I liked the ATC footage and having a copy of Tim's notes too! Sure it would have been awesome to get a bunch of close ups and something like a 3D view of all around the project via camera and maybe some Hollywood level special effects (lol) but I got my money's worth and more. Then you went and added all the extras with the 'candy' and 'thanks' bonuses, so how could anyone not have gotten their money's worth?! I've read some of the comments and replies with the feedback from the kickstarter, I did not have any problems and I feel like you guys more than merely stepped up and delivered on what was promised. Lol. So many hours of footage! And all the extras too! How could anyone have gotten the not good end of that deal?! I wish I had a skill, like knowing how to edit, lol, to be more helpful in this arena. However, since I do not have any editing skills to offer, I am more than happy to take what I can get or "eat whatever gets put on the table". Beggars cannot be choosers! You have always been more than generous with anything you make available and I have never been disappointed in any of my purchases from you yet. Never! I've got world domination gardening, all eight RMH DVDs and Ernie and Erica's rocket mass heater book too. Even though I haven't ever gotten to meet any of the innovators in person, it's always inspiring to get to see them and their latest creations!

An even more off topic side note: Speaking of Appropiate Technology, has anyone seen Glenn Martinez out of Olomana Garden's in Hawaii and what he can do with an airlift pump?! A single 40 watt air pump moving hundreds of gallons of water up 15-20 or more feet high!? He's got some really cool videos up on YouTube of his gardens and demos explaining how the pumps work and has even patented his own pump system.
 
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I think a big thing is:   there is watching the video, and there is being there at the event.  

If you are here for the PDC, you get guidance for making a design.   You also get to ask questions, and you sit at the tables during meals and double your learning.  

If you are here for the jamboree, you learn how to do shitty welding, which is the first step before good welding.   You build with cob and brick.   You get the actual hands on experience of building in a variety of styles. 

So, yeah, video is helpful to people that cannot come.  But the real education is in being here.



 
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I would like to take a work trade spot for 4 weeks. I plan to attend the whole 12 days, will this take 500 dollars from the price and I cover the rest?
And to get my dibs on the spot what is required?
 
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Travis Armstrong wrote:I would like to take a work trade spot for 4 weeks. I plan to attend the whole 12 days, will this take 500 dollars from the price and I cover the rest?


Yup.  Send over $800 and we will get this process started.

 
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I live in Mongolia and I'm having trouble getting PayPal to work for me adding a card. I sent the money through another person. How much would it cost to rent a good sleeping bag and sleeping mat?
 
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My wife and I would both like to attend part 1. But we would be bringing a dedicated babysitter adult and two children with us. Thus, we would NEED to be able to rent non-shared accommodations, such as Allerton Abbey, in order to safely contain them during the events. I would need to know something of that sort is available to me (and, of course, the cost) before I can book. Also, would there be an additional fee for non-participants being on the land? The only difference I would anticipate from a hosting perspective would be food, which seems to be included/not-included. We are used to bringing our own food everywhere we go, so that's not a problem (although that's mostly because most places you go only serve "food like substances").
 
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I'm registered for Part II. Looking forward to meeting everyone and learning more!
 
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Alex Love wrote:My wife and I would both like to attend part 1. But we would be bringing a dedicated babysitter adult and two children with us. Thus, we would NEED to be able to rent non-shared accommodations, such as Allerton Abbey, in order to safely contain them during the events. I would need to know something of that sort is available to me (and, of course, the cost) before I can book. Also, would there be an additional fee for non-participants being on the land? The only difference I would anticipate from a hosting perspective would be food, which seems to be included/not-included. We are used to bringing our own food everywhere we go, so that's not a problem (although that's mostly because most places you go only serve "food like substances").


Alex,

Sorry for the delay.  I had several conversations with Jocelyn about how to accommodate you.

First, we are making changes to allerton abbey right now and we hope to have those changes ready in time for the jamboree.   Mostly because a big part of part 3 of the jamboree will be in allerton abbey.  So Jocelyn and I had a few talks about whether this could be juggled or not and in the end we decided that the smart thing to do is to remove allerton abbey from the list of potentials on the jamboree page. 

There is a motel about 7 minutes away and a few other options that are closer (and many more that are further).  More info about those are provided once you register for the event.



 
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Alex Love wrote:My wife and I would both like to attend part 1. But we would be bringing a dedicated babysitter adult and two children with us. Thus, we would NEED to be able to rent non-shared accommodations, such as Allerton Abbey, in order to safely contain them during the events. I would need to know something of that sort is available to me (and, of course, the cost) before I can book. Also, would there be an additional fee for non-participants being on the land? The only difference I would anticipate from a hosting perspective would be food, which seems to be included/not-included. We are used to bringing our own food everywhere we go, so that's not a problem (although that's mostly because most places you go only serve "food like substances").


Alex,

Sorry for the delay.  I had several conversations with Jocelyn about how to accommodate you.

First, we are making changes to allerton abbey right now and we hope to have those changes ready in time for the jamboree.   Mostly because a big part of part 3 of the jamboree will be in allerton abbey.  So Jocelyn and I had a few talks about whether this could be juggled or not and in the end we decided that the smart thing to do is to remove allerton abbey from the list of potentials on the jamboree page. 

There is a motel about 7 minutes away and a few other options that are closer (and many more that are further).  More info about those are provided once you register for the event.



Thanks for conversing about it, and for the response. I don't want to stick them in a hotel for three days, so I guess it won't work out this time.
 
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Rules about dogs?
 
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Christopher Kendall wrote:Rules about dogs?


Most of it is covered here.  Although somebody else did bring a dog and the dog disappeared - we do live in mountain lion country.

 
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I like how well thought out your work is, Paul.  I'll leave her home. I'm very close to pulling the trigger.
 
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I'm in for Part 1... My flight is to Kalispel. Do you know anyone from the Flathead Valley I could hitch a ride with?  Is there a dedicated rideshare forum page?

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Bri Bird wrote:I'm in for Part 1... My flight is to Kalispel. Do you know anyone from the Flathead Valley I could hitch a ride with?  Is there a dedicated rideshare forum page?

Stoked! (see what I did there?


Kalispell!  Oh my, that's a ways away. 

Josiah will be here from there, but I don't know if he has room, and I suspect he will be here several days early.

 
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I know! Making the trip a two-fer and visiting family up there before coming down for the workshop. If I can hitch a ride then I can fly out of Missoula instead of borrowing a car that I have to drive back north afterwards.

I could come down as early as Thursday, so I'll try to pm Josiah and see what's up. Thanks!
 
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Hello,
I am looking to attend the tiny home 4inch box batch rocket mass stove lecture. I do not have the funds to pay for any of the days. I was seeing if you would like to skill trade. I am a beekeeper and can help with your bees for wintering if you need help. I work in Massachusetts as a beekeeping inspector and also help at a commercial apiary.
hope to hear back from you,
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Ori Ben-Shir wrote:Hello,
I am looking to attend the tiny home 4inch box batch rocket mass stove lecture. I do not have the funds to pay for any of the days. I was seeing if you would like to skill trade. I am a beekeeper and can help with your bees for wintering if you need help. I work in Massachusetts as a beekeeping inspector and also help at a commercial apiary.
hope to hear back from you,
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Did you see the work trade stuff here?
 
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Hi,
Yes I saw about the Work Trade offer. I would love to do it however a month is a bit too much for me. I do work 3 jobs over here in Mass. I may be able to take a week off but that's about it.
Let me know if this can work.
Ori
 
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Ori,

At this time, this is what we offer:  tickets for coin and tickets for our formal work trade.

 
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I'm paid up and registered for the whole deal, did I miss an email with all the info I need? I'm a bit intimidated with getting ready to camp in the woods in Montana for two weeks in October.
 
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Chris,  I see that you got the response from me when you paid - you replied to me. 

Jocelyn or Renee should have contacted you by now.   Have you heard from either of them?
 
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