Jonathan Byron wrote:
His political and religious views are not of interest to me.
rckymtnhigh wrote:
Running a profitable business does not make you a greedy nor evil person. When I see complaints about Sepp Holzer charging for giving tours or Salatin doing speaking engagements for money it baffles me. Do you think Salatin would have had time to write, let alone find someone to produce his book "Salad Bar Beef" if he gave it all away for free?
Kent
Robert Ray wrote:
You have to make the separation or acknowledge the separations. It's not that I don't like pizza, it's I don't like anchovies on the pizza.
I see the interconnectedness but I also see that they are separate ingredients.
Politics and economics are two different things.
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Jonathan Byron wrote:
Most of the people who study political science or economics do make such distinctions, and they make sense. The average lay person conflates (and confuses) capitalism with democracy and sometimes Jesus, Elvis, and apple pie. The average person gets a foggy look on their face if one described China today or Chile a decade ago as capitalist-fascist, or the Scandinavian countries as social-democracies.... to most people, those countries can only be understood as 'like the US' (good) or 'not like the US' (bad). Using independent dimensions for the economy and political system makes sense, IMO.
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rckymtnhigh wrote:
If people have issues with Corporatism i.e. Obama and the Republocrats giving special concessions to the Food Companys(S.B. 510), I completely agree.
"gary chartier" wrote:
capitalism-1
an economic system that features property rights and voluntary exchanges of goods and services.
capitalism-2
an economic system that features a symbiotic relationship between big business and government.
capitalism-3
rule — of workplaces, society, and (if there is one) the state — by capitalists (that is, by a relatively small number of people who control investable wealth and the means of production).[3]
christhamrin wrote:
glad we agree mostly. my little disagreement hinges on the word 'capitalist'. i don't care for it & it means different things (salatin clearly is using capitalism-1). see the following three definitions:
i am an anti-capitalist-2&-3.
christhamrin wrote:i am an anti-capitalist-2&-3.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
RustysDog wrote:
In its original context, Capitalism meant letting your surplus capital generate more capital for you. (Why should I work if my money can work for me?)
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christhamrin wrote:
I was wondering if it'd be kosher to even start talking about Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal.
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paul wheaton wrote:
In fact, any discussion of capitalism on any part of permies.com needs to have a powerful respect for my philosophies, or else it will be deleted.
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paul wheaton wrote:
Since I think it is good to respect everybody on permies, I'm gonna go with the devious plot of not explaining my philosophies. So, folks then need to show respect to all philosophies.
RustysDog wrote:
I am not investing my money and long days to feed a hungry world.
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PatJFree wrote:
Chickens from Space!!! - a good satellite image of Joel's chicken pens as they move down the hillside - it's clear as the pasture goes from light green to yellow to dark green.
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paul wheaton wrote:
Have you seen my article about raising chickens? Less work, less feed costs, more trees and shrubs than salatin's systems.
MaBo wrote:
Paul, no I haven't but I'd like to. Those advantages you mention are certainly noteworthy. Where can I access the article? I've watched quite a few of those YouTube segments, and liked them a lot.
MaBo wrote:
Paul, no I haven't but I'd like to. Those advantages you mention are certainly noteworthy. Where can I access the article? I've watched quite a few of those YouTube segments, and liked them a lot.
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