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didn't know the best place to put this. i'm not expecting that it is edible, the reason I'm curious is that my goats aren't eating it and there is quite a bit of it. it apparently it likes to spread if cut back as you can see by the pic. thanks in advance....I don't have an identification book and I haven't found any good usable online sources....

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anyone!!! it appears that it is about to bloom so maybe that will help me narrow it down.

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I have looked at many websites to try & id that plant. Short of sending the photo to an OK Master Gardener, or somebody @ OSU, I wouldn't know what else to do. Will be interested in seeing the blooms.

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I'm not sure, but if I had to guess I'd probably start with an umbel. You might start by looking up Ferula assa-foetida. That is the plant used to make the Indian spice asafoetida. I think they grind the roots for it. It smells like cat piss, but that goes away once it's in the dal.

I'll be curious to see the flowers too.

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okie dokey. it bloomed. if it is useful that is great. otherwise I want to make sure it doesn't get out of control. if the goats don't enjoy and it just spreads when you mow it ...well...it could prove to be pretty annoying.

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looked up Ferula assa-foetida and that isn't it. hmmmm.

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I'm not sure about that one. I would recommend trying to contact your local agricultural extension agent and send the pic to them. Tell them you're concerned about your goats and you'd like them to tell you about the plant. That way you can have a scientist figure it out for you.

Let us know if you figure it out.

Good luck!

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Leah Sattler

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thanks dave. I guess that is what I will have to do. the more I look at it, the more I realize it is only sparsely distributed on the majority of the property. but there is a large swath of it where they came through and put in a large gas line. I hope they didn't unleash a monster!

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Um, you might try the Oklahoma Biological Survey. They dont have photos on their website, but you might try sending them an email with your pics. Its a place to start.

www.iosurvey.ou.edu

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I haven't sent a pic off yet...but good news (for me) since the little bits of wild rose that are left after mowing have all had their fresh leaves nibbled off the goats decided to try munching on whatever plant this is. so I think it was all the tasty rose leaves that was keeping their attention. I have acres and acres of rose left for them to destroy......just need to add some fence.....adn I can be confident that I can use them to control whatever this is if I need them to.

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Leah Sattler wrote:
I haven't sent a pic off yet...but good news (for me) since the little bits of wild rose that are left after mowing have all had their fresh leaves nibbled off the goats decided to try munching on whatever plant this is. so I think it was all the tasty rose leaves that was keeping their attention. I have acres and acres of rose left for them to destroy......just need to add some fence.....adn I can be confident that I can use them to control whatever this is if I need them to.

It's still worth trying to get the extension folks to ID it, for two reasons:

1) You might want to know if a plant is poisonous to your goats or just not preferred, even if their main job is weed control...
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2) now we're all curious! So what is the mystery plant?

I've seen something like that growing around here, too, and we're in a very different zone. But I could just be confused. Seemed like it was a medicinal like yarrow or feverfew, the one we had here. Sometimes a weed, sometimes a flower.

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posted 14 years ago

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Looks like our yarrow

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Off the top of my head,Id have to say it looks suspiciously like Nigella.This genus is in the buttercup family which would make it possibly toxic but the seeds of some species have been used for spice ect.

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posted 14 years ago

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It's January 2011 now. Did anyone find out what this plant is?

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I don't know what it is, but it reminds me of a very evil weed I once met...

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we have this plant here as well i used to know the name but its slipped my mind right now, its definitely not yarrow whoever said that. in the second pic at the bottom right there actually is a yarrow plant. ill try and do some searching for you.

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posted 14 years ago

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Was this plant ever identified?

Mekka Pakanohida

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Leah, have you been able to figure out what the plant is doing for the property? IE - A possible dynamic accumulator, or nitro fixer? Deep tap root?

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posted 13 years ago

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posted 13 years ago

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Its def. not seablite. It resembles dogfenel very closely.

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pic are hard to ID stuff by, but Im laying in close on the achellia, even if not millefolium, or yarrow. its right in there.

dog fennel is actually not an umbel (its a compositea, or asteracea) and this (by the pictures) looks to be an umbel (aka apiaceae).
leah, did the flowers open up more? im tryingto see if it is indeed and umbel (flowers like a carrot or fennel on a 3rd order stem) ) or if its composite (with lots of little pettaled flowers on second order stems) order fo stem- how many branches beween main stem and flower bases?

what do insects do with it? I suspect you might have a neat medicinal or herb here....

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