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Container Garden Plant Breeding Experiments

 
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Hi everyone,

I live in a small house, with a small concreted yard covered in containers of compost, which is where I grow. My desire to pursue my interest in plant breeding and enthusiasm for big plants that aren’t all that suitable for containers is somewhat at odds with the lack of space. You gotta appreciate the irony!

This year is the year that I decided to finally actively try to undertake some plant breeding, rather than just read about it and get excited. This year is also the year that the slugs have decided to actively eat my breeding programme participants. It does comfort me slightly to know that Carol Deppe says her plants have accidentally been selected for the ability to outgrow slug attacks, given that she chooses to garden organically. I am more than happy to be selecting for that too.

I have a lot of projects that I want to undertake. I’m currently working on a mini sunflower project (I love red, brown, bicoloured or any other unusually coloured sunflower). I plan to display these on my mini sunflower wall. Some slug resistance here would be very helpful, as slugs keep decapitating my poor seedlings. 😢

Ever since I heard Mark Reed talk about his sweet potato landrace, and how he grows them from seed, I wanted to have a go at doing the same. It might not work here in sunny (or not) Yorkshire, but it’s fun to try. I have slips from a purple flesh variety I sourced from a nursery, a white fleshed variety I sourced from the grocery store and an orange fleshed one also from the grocery store. Had to grow my own slips on those last two.

I’m also wanting to create a colourful & tasty potato landrace that I can readily grow from true potato seed. My potatoes are currently flowering and I have 3 different flower types, so at least 3 varieties. Could be any of the original varieties that I’ve reproduced clonally from a couple years ago (Mayan Gold, Highland Burgandy and Salad Blue or their offspring as I’ve grown from TPS in the same space, so some of those tubers could’ve made it through the winter too.

Last thing, is my Osteospermum breeding project. I love African daisies and I have some that I’m trying to grow from seed as well as a whole bunch of ones from the garden centre. The garden centre ones do produce pollen, but don’t produce seeds. I hear male cytoplasm sterility is much more common than female sterility, so I’m hoping if I try and cross these to some (presumably fertile) seed grown ones that it will restore fertility. Apparently MCS is always transmitted maternally, so if I use the garden centre plants as the pollen donors, it should work out ok if I’m understanding things correctly. Of course, I could be hopelessly wrong too. Did I mention I am a complete amateur at all this?

I will update as things progress. Either that or the slugs/snails will reign supreme and eat everything….🐌

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My back yard
My back yard
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Mini Sunflower Wall
Mini Sunflower Wall
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My Sweet Potato Tub
My Sweet Potato Tub
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Purple potato flowers
Purple potato flowers
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My Osteospermum ‘gene pool’
My Osteospermum ‘gene pool’
 
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Heather Gardener wrote:Hi everyone,

I live in a small house, with a small concreted yard covered in containers of compost, which is where I grow. My desire to pursue my interest in plant breeding and enthusiasm for big plants that aren’t all that suitable for containers is somewhat at odds with the lack of space. You gotta appreciate the irony!

This year is the year that I decided to finally actively try to undertake some plant breeding, rather than just read about it and get excited. This year is also the year that the slugs have decided to actively eat my breeding programme participants. It does comfort me slightly to know that Carol Deppe says her plants have accidentally been selected for the ability to outgrow slug attacks, given that she chooses to garden organically. I am more than happy to be selecting for that too.

I have a lot of projects that I want to undertake. I’m currently working on a mini sunflower project (I love red, brown, bicoloured or any other unusually coloured sunflower). I plan to display these on my mini sunflower wall. Some slug resistance here would be very helpful, as slugs keep decapitating my poor seedlings. 😢

Ever since I heard Mark Reed talk about his sweet potato landrace, and how he grows them from seed, I wanted to have a go at doing the same. It might not work here in sunny (or not) Yorkshire, but it’s fun to try. I have slips from a purple flesh variety I sourced from a nursery, a white fleshed variety I sourced from the grocery store and an orange fleshed one also from the grocery store. Had to grow my own slips on those last two.

I’m also wanting to create a colourful & tasty potato landrace that I can readily grow from true potato seed. My potatoes are currently flowering and I have 3 different flower types, so at least 3 varieties. Could be any of the original varieties that I’ve reproduced clonally from a couple years ago (Mayan Gold, Highland Burgandy and Salad Blue or their offspring as I’ve grown from TPS in the same space, so some of those tubers could’ve made it through the winter too.

Last thing, is my Osteospermum breeding project. I love African daisies and I have some that I’m trying to grow from seed as well as a whole bunch of ones from the garden centre. The garden centre ones do produce pollen, but don’t produce seeds. I hear male cytoplasm sterility is much more common than female sterility, so I’m hoping if I try and cross these to some (presumably fertile) seed grown ones that it will restore fertility. Apparently MCS is always transmitted maternally, so if I use the garden centre plants as the pollen donors, it should work out ok if I’m understanding things correctly. Of course, I could be hopelessly wrong too. Did I mention I am a complete amateur at all this?

I will update as things progress. Either that or the slugs/snails will reign supreme and eat everything….🐌


Have you tried outlining everything on the ground/concrete in salt? Salt burns(?) through the slugs/snails mucus, I believe.
The wall - could the base, sides, & top could possibly be outlined as well?
Other than that, you have a beautiful little garden, & those purple potato flowers have inspired me to aquire some purple potatoes for my small container garden!
 
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Aww thank you Mary Anne 😊 Not sure if purple flower colour colour and purple tuber colour are necessarily linked, but can’t hurt to try.

I have considered salt but as the main munching is done in my greenhouse, I thing the slugs responsible might already be in the soil.

 
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Heather Gardener wrote:Aww thank you Mary Anne 😊 Not sure if purple flower colour colour and purple tuber colour are necessarily linked, but can’t hurt to try.



There is an article on Cultivariable about potato plant flower color and what they can tell you https://www.cultivariable.com/what-potato-flowers-can-tell-you-about-tuber-color/
 
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Dorothy Pohorelow wrote:

Heather Gardener wrote:Aww thank you Mary Anne 😊 Not sure if purple flower colour colour and purple tuber colour are necessarily linked, but can’t hurt to try.



There is an article on Cultivariable about potato plant flower color and what they can tell you https://www.cultivariable.com/what-potato-flowers-can-tell-you-about-tuber-color/


This definitely helps!
Thank you so much!
 
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Dorothy Pohorelow wrote:

Heather Gardener wrote:Aww thank you Mary Anne 😊 Not sure if purple flower colour colour and purple tuber colour are necessarily linked, but can’t hurt to try.


There is an article on Cultivariable about potato plant flower color and what they can tell you https://www.cultivariable.com/what-potato-flowers-can-tell-you-about-tuber-color/



Cool, thanks Dorothy 😊🌱

 
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Update 11th June 2022

My Osteospermums look suspiciously like they are making seeds. Of course, I’m thrilled about this, as there’s less pressure to have to try and get them all through the winter intact if I have back up seeds. At some point, I’ll probably start leaving them outside all winter to purposefully select for cold tolerant strains. It’s been a bit hit and miss in the plants I’ve grown up until now.

We recently went on a day trip to a nearby (sort of) forest and called in at a local fishing village that my partner wanted to check out. I discovered a kind of kale growing out of the harbour wall and at the foot of the cliffs, just growing wild. I got super excited at the idea of adding wild kale hardiness genes to a kale landrace, so I collected some seeds and am hoping v much that they grow. It may be a late flowering variety, as all my domestic kale finished up flowering a couple months back, or it might just flower over a longer period maybe? I have christened the variety “Wild Lady of Staines” as a reference to the village where I found it.

Had a stubby lilac peoniflorum type poppy pop open. It’s gorgeous! Have no recollection of planting that type, so it’s either from a mix I’ve sown at some point or a gift from the bird poop delivery service.

My potatoes have lots of flowers on now. The most prolific one just so happens to be my favourite, which works out well. It’s a darker purple in the middle, which fades toward the edges. I’ve also had a pure purple petal flower, and a few white petalled ones.







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Looks suspiciously like Osteospermum seeds trying to grow
Looks suspiciously like Osteospermum seeds trying to grow
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Newly sown seed of wild kale I found growing by the sea
Newly sown seed of wild kale I found growing by the sea
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Purple kale pods
Purple kale pods
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White kale pods
White kale pods
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Beautiful self seeded poppy
Beautiful self seeded poppy
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My favourite (and most prolific) potato flower so far
My favourite (and most prolific) potato flower so far
 
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Today I spotted my first seed germinating of the wild kale I found. I’m stupidly excited about that. I could do with some super hardy, stands up to the aphids and caterpillars, type kale. I just hope it makes it to seedling stage and doesn’t get eaten/rot off/shrivel up in the sun. I did try and take a picture, but it’s too tiny to really show up on camera.

My first sweet peas (Lathyrus) bloomed today. It’s a variety called Winter Elegance that’s supposed to bloom through the winter, so I’m intrigued to see if it does. Might be worth attempting some wide crosses with Lathyrus Tuberosum to increase it’s winter hardiness/height or a cross with the Lathyrus known as everlasting pea, which currently dies back over winter.

Also, my sweet potatoes bloomed today 🥰. I’m so excited. I’m praying it’s a self fertile kind and I can get seeds and start my own UK based sweet potato landrace.

I have a couple pics I want to share but I don’t seem to be able to upload them directly from my iPad anymore, it’s asking for a URL of the image, so once I figure that one out, I’ll be back with pics. 😊🌱
 
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You would think, wouldn’t you, that I would have a decent grasp of technology, given that I’m only 33?

I couldn’t upload my pics because I wasn’t logged in 🙄. Doh!

Anyway, here’s my flower pics, along with a bonus sunlounger selfie 😁
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First ever Sweet Potato flower
First ever Sweet Potato flower
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Lathyrus ‘Winter Elegance’
Lathyrus ‘Winter Elegance’
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Testing my new sun lounger out
Testing my new sun lounger out
 
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