plant ID

good morning everyone

Could you help me identify these two plants. Also for a newbie what is the best why to "Google" identify a plant. how would I describe the leaves or flowers that would narrow down the search

the second one is some kind of wild rose.

the first one is familiar to me, but i cant place it. is it a shrub? tree? maybe?

and totally it is tricky knowing how to even start when you dont what a plant is. i put in various keyword searches , but many times cannot find the name of a plant that way. though sometimes when i am looking for another thing later, then i just happen upon a picture close to something i was trying to find before!

but its good to get familiar with general plant families, that helps. so...say you could look up...its some kind of mustard, cause you see the distinct brassica/mustard flowers.....or some kind of mint type (square stems)...or whatever other clues you can get once you have a few families of plants somewhat down. even with knowing this it is still tricky, i dont know how many times i have tried to figure out an id and not been able to.

the very best way to get going , IMO, is to go on long walks with people who are good at this, and let them point things out, sharing their info as you walk...most people who are into this sort of thing enjoy sharing their knowledge this way =)

Is the 1st a plant or shrub? If a shrub, it looks a lot like Wild Hydrangea.

I was going to say the first one was a hydrangea too, the landlord has one growing in our front garden, very pretty when it blooms and the flowers last until the autumn!

The first one is a plant and the second one is a bush

Thank you for the advice on plant family. I will definitely start with that. I wish I knew someone in this area to teach me a thing or two.

I just googled Wild hydrangea. I think that's definitely what it is. Thanks everyone!!! 👌