jiao wixu

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Another issue, is on north america, the grid-power is usually of a very poor quality. This is measured with special logging-recording equipment by myself, and also quality UPS's (battery backups) keeps a record and can be set to different sensitivity-levels. The poor quality electricity may be responsible for some of the burn-outs, although on the balance poor-quality CFL engineering and construction are a greater issue.


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Another way to go is the 'industrial' CFL, if one has a situation with a larger room and standard sockets. These are engineered better, to replace 'street' lamps, and they also have more room at the base for the electronics to dissipate heat; whereas many 'home' CFL's are designed to accommodate sockets originally for filament lamps - with a skinny neck instead of a large base. With one brand, MEGAMAN, maybe only available on europe, (these are the 10-minute slow starters mentioned above), I had bad luck with their 'standard' CFL's of 4000k and 6500k, retailing around 30EUR. The small base seemed to have a lot of heat! For about 40EUR at the time, however, it was possible to get one of the Jumbo-series lamps, which was a huge step-up in terms of lighting brightness, (elect.) durability and quality. The 74watt model I donated, is now providing lighting for an art gallery that works with disabled folks. They had only 2700k standard no-name CFLs before, and it was so awful just to be in that space with the poor lighting - a picture-window letting in some evening light, that in order to continue without getting sick, I was convinced it necessary to improve the lighting.

And the new light is the centre of activity, as colours jump out. We hope to provide more lighting as time continues: the official lighting budget is this new fiscal year.
13 years ago
No problem with CFL's. It sounds like the ppl with issues are using very cheap ones to begin with. These do break within a year, although the quality was bad to begin with.

Cheap electronics, no rare phosphors, a 2700k so-called 'warm' light that is supposed to imitate a filament lamp, in turn supposed to imitate a candle flame,
this is a poor light for daily activities, early evening, or reading or doing shop-work. Give up on 'warm' which has very poor colour-rendering, and fails to bring out vibrance, making life literally seem grey.

Use 4000k lamps (minimum) for activities, good electronics, good phosphors... On good CFL electronics, the very circuit which is likely to burn out is the same in electronic starters for more traditional fluorescents. The rest of the lamp construction quality-level is, by reason, about equal to the quality of the starter circuit.

I got 10 electronic starters on-the-cheap from an ebay shop, where there was no further information on the specifications, except what was printed on the outside of the starter housing. The claim was 5 to 125watts.

In repeated tests with 100watt lamps, the starters burned themselves out, one after another. Almost each start, (turning the lamp on), had a new starter burn out. With 10 separate lamps, no specific fixture had burned-out starters more than any other.

It turns out bad electronic starters are a common issue of discussion with tanning bed operators, so if you check their forums, it becomes clear there are only about 4 brands of 5 starters which are worth bothering with - the rest are junk. This is the same reason why the CFL's fail: poverty-minded engineering and construction, creates marginal circuits which last only a short time.

The only tanning-bed success electronic starter manufacturer brand-name available, having been used in the high-stress environment of tanning cycling and heat, also present in the CFL market, is PHILIPS. I have looked over a few different brands of CFL's, and the PHILIPS TORNADO DAYLIGHT lamps seem to be priced affordably, and also have the best durability (electronics and room temp tolerance) when used by me. These are only 6500k lamps, though, so I cannot recommend using them during the late evening or at night during sleeping hours. Doing so affects the stimulation of the body ['circadian rhythm']. For early evening, it is ideal to have a 4000k lamp, although a 2700k TORNADO could do in a pinch. For late evening/sleeping hours, only red light.

The CRI of the 6500k lamps is rated at 82, but this seems like a low number, which is good: seems to be around the high 80's. What makes me wonder about a rating I saw for the CRI of the 2700k lamps: 82. One is not correct. These lamps, while quality, are sold into a common-use and not technical market, so someone should make their own tests on the CRI and report back if they wish.

For me, though, the TORNADO series 6500k 'DAYLIGHT' are fine for daytime lighting without further testing. There is no buzzing, humming or chirping. There is no flickering, and they start immediately, unlike another more expensive brand lamp that takes up to 10 minutes to warm-up. They do not seem to suffer from power-cycling fatigue, nor does the base generate excess heat, remaining cool enough to remove the lamp directly, or very soon after turning it off.

Standard CFL's that cannot be removed from the socket within about 25 seconds of turning-off, indicate poor engineering, generating excess heat during operation, in turn they are generally not going to last. One can determine the heat of the base by hand, at a shop with a display of lamps turned-on, in bare-sockets.

CFL's are used as part of an overall lighting form: My suggestion is dual sockets, or triple, with 6500k/red or 4000k/red, or 6500k/4000k/red light, and use the lighting as needed to replicate normal tropical cycles.
13 years ago