Heather Davis

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Anne Miller wrote:Most states already have guidelines for green burials.

Have you looked into what the state allows?



Yes, others in our working group are familiar with the guidelines for our state.  There are many resources, but the whole state of Maine has only a few defunct green cemeteries and 2 active green cemeteries that are far from us.  Our working group was started by folks who want a green burial in or near their community.  Our goal is to have green burial options in our 3 local counties.

I'm particularly asking if anyone on Permies is interested in, or has already, or is exploring setting up a green burial cemetery as part of their income stream for their land, if they are interested in managing the cemetery or in partnership with a funeral director or land trust that is willing and able to manage a green burial ground.

A viable business model would help encourage "if you build it they will come" and from the other end, creating a demand by having people request green burials from their town cemeteries, will hopefully encourage the supply.
10 months ago

Douglas Alpenstock wrote:

I guess one concern that comes to mind is "concentration." The human body in modern times is hardly a temple of purity. Mercury, lead, and maybe a pinch of atmospheric nuclear testing byproducts? A few human remains won't really matter. A lot of human remains may get people's hackles up.

It would take some careful handling up-front because I can see governments and local citizens asking hard questions about this, and once opposition/fear solidifies it turns to concrete.

I also wonder about how well a property would sell down the road. I don't know that I would buy it. It may need to be incorporated into a public land trust.



We have come across a variety of objections from local town cemetery sextants, though some have been very open to adding green burials to their offerings.  A green cemetery allows people to have a green burial without having mini cemeteries on their own land, which may make it hard to sell, down the road.  The green cemetery would be land that is set aside, conserved, not land that anyone hopes to sell in the future.  Ideally, there would be a large piece of land with a smaller area, like 5 acres, in the middle, with walking paths around the outside. There is a land trust about 2 hours away that has a green cemetery as part of its conserved land.  The management of the cemetery is a job for a funeral director or someone with special place in their heart for those who are grieving.  Perhaps someone who is interested in permaculture will also be interested in managing a cemetery, as well.  I'm hoping to connect with someone like that who has made some forays towards putting together a business plan.  
10 months ago
Hello!  

Has anyone researched green burial cemeteries as an income stream for their land?   I believe that green cemeteries can be an income stream for people who have land that they would like to conserve, while providing a meaningful service to their community.   It seems that green burials are becoming more popular and each community would benefit from an alternative to the current conventional burial & cremation options.  There are many great resources in the form of websites, organizations and documentaries!

I live in rural Maine, where people can be buried in private cemeteries on their own land, but for people without enough land, there aren't many options.  Even people who have enough land are seeking communal green cemeteries that will be maintained for generations.  I've recently joined a working group that is setting up a non-profit with the goal of helping an individual, land trust or existing cemetery set up a conservation green burial cemetery.  There have been several individuals in Maine, who have started green cemeteries without a succession plan and the cemeteries are no longer open for new burials.  We are interested in helping to develop a long term plan that will be available for perpetuity.

We hope to find a land trust, funeral director and/or cemetery steward that will take on the management of the green burial cemetery, on land that is donated or purchased for that purpose.  Here is a draft of an advertisement seeking land for use as a green burial site.  

Midcoast Maine Green Burial (MMGB) is a local volunteer organization recently formed to  engage in education and advocacy for green burial cemeteries or hybrid cemeteries to be  established within the boundaries of Knox, Waldo and Lincoln counties. Green burial is a way of caring for the dead with minimal environmental impact that aids in the conservation of natural resources, reduction of carbon emissions, protection of worker health, and the restoration and/or preservation of habitat.

We are seeking a tract of land to ultimately create a conservation green burial cemetery  within the boundaries of Knox, Waldo and Lincoln counties.

Are you a land owner in our community who would be interested in putting a few acres  into this kind of natural burial ground?  Some rural property that is zoned agricultural will allow green cemeteries; this is what we are seeking.

Acquiring the Right Property  
The purchase agreements for the land would include contingencies upon getting approval  by the state, city or county, making sure the land has the appropriate zoning, municipal and  neighbor consent, does not have owner restrictions, does not have deed covenants, is  relatively flat, is not located in a flood zone, has no wells on the property, has little or no  surface water and is removed from development.  

We would ask for a 60-90 day wait period to gather all the information and get approvals  from all the parties involved.


I searched Permies and found a few threads about composting remains, but not using land for green cemeteries.  I'm looking for information on business models to present to potential land owners / donors.  I look forward to hearing what others have discovered or considered! TIA!!
10 months ago

Marjory Wildcraft wrote:Hey there,

Just got back to Puerto Rico and boy is it nice to see my guerilla garden still growing by the beach.

Met up with my neighbor Alexis, he's the best! Since I left this past summer, he's tended to the trees he planted and my plants too on the public land.



Hi Marjory,  I'm visiting PR and looking around for where my family and I might want to purchase a house.  I'm traveling around the island and would love to see your guerrilla garden and meet your neighbor Alexis, if possible.   I have done a lot of guerrilla gardening in NYC and LA.  Now I live in Maine, where my folks have a good sized communal garden and orchard.  I'll send you a PuMo with my contact info. All the best, Heather
3 years ago
Hello!  I recommend a piece of leather for protecting the table.  You could double it if it is thin leather.  The leather will have better grip than the cardboard.
3 years ago
I'm posting here to share my dad's attempts to protect his hazelnut harvest this year from squirrels.  Last year he lost most of the nuts to the squirrels in mid August, before they were ripe and only got a couple gallons that were left, also before they were ripe.  This year he is going to put up tall thick black plastic and thinks that will keep out the squirrels. I'm thinking that an electric fence close to the ground and up at the top could help.  We have looked into rodent zappers also.  For shooting squirrels, it sounds like we'd have to be set up by the hazels in the early morning, fighting off mosquitos, shooting squirrels from before dawn ever morning for several months, which isn't going to happen.  Any more ideas, please let me know!
6 years ago
Hello!  I'm resurrecting this thread since my dad and I are about to attempt to protect his hazelnuts from squirrels, without just picking them before they are ripe.  We have red squirrels, grey squirrels and chipmunks.  According to Dad's notes, he started seeing rodent activity on August 11th last year, so we would like to have all our defenses up this week.  Our ideas include burying a fence made of layers of chicken wire, black plastic and then more chicken wire, followed by an electric fence up higher, or thick black plastic that they won't be able to climb easily.  We are also looking into getting a rodent zapper and a trap to reduce the overall population.  The bushes are about 5' x 10' with many stalks so flashing isn't an option.  They are so heavy with nuts that the branches are touching the ground.  We are in Camden, Maine.  I appreciate any ideas or encouragement and will keep you posted!
6 years ago
In the late 60's and early 70's my folks lived in California and learned how to grow Indian corn from some Mexican Indian friends. They were given seed corn and grew it for many years. They moved to Maine and continued growing the corn, drying it and then making hominy, corn meal, etc as a staple food on their off the grid small farm. I grew up having tamales and homily and it was delicious. They used wood ashes and also pickling lime. Last Thanksgiving, I bought some dried blue corn that is a variety grown by the Tarahumara people in Mexico. I ordered Mrs. Wages Pickling Lime and found the directions on http://www.howtomakehominyfromcorn.com/making-limewater.html. It turned out well but is a lot of work, so I haven't done it again. Store bought prepared corn in the form of masa, canned hominy, tortillas, etc doesn't taste as good as freshly nixtamalized corn. Here is a good resource, as well: http://www.culturesforhealth.com/pickling-lime.html

We moved to a smaller property when I was a teen in the 80's and there wasn't enough room to grow hard corn and sweet corn without cross pollinating (and ruining both) so my folks stopped growing Indian corn. Recently they cleared more land, expanded their garden space and started growing hard corn again. I can't wait for fresh tamales again!!
8 years ago
Does anyone have a good reference for the optimum and minimum requirements for growing rice as far as growing season and climate?

R Ranson wrote:I'm afraid that submerged in water and kept in our dining room (only part of the house hot enough), it's going to start to ferment and stink. Anyone have experience with this?



I'm curious if yours will ferment, too! What about pulling or ladling off the clear water and gently adding fresh water every day? Or you could try with sterile potting mix instead of garden soil?