Matthew Eklund

Bryant RedHawk wrote:Clear cut land is some of the most affordable normally. It makes perfect sense to buy it up and restore it to something better than it ever was in recent history.
Usually I find listings for this type of land at thousands less per acre than untouched land and with the "blank slate" you don't have to worry about any disturbance you do because the major disturbance has been done.
You now become the painter of the landscape and permaculture is the perfect model for good, solid restoration or reclamation.

Redhawk

Yes! Great insite😊We feel the same.

Michael Adams wrote:I agree with most things that have been said about a logged site. However, it's apparent that the forest is now really struggling with the new machinery and modern harvesters being used. The harvesters alone are almost comparable to a military tank. I still have some unaddressed 10 year ruts on my land from the previous owner's cut  that are 3' deep and barely growing weeds. I do feel that clearcutting has turned into a runaway train, timber companies are making very fast money due to the speed of harvests being completed with these admittedly incredible machines.. Meanwhile the soil is completely traumatized alongside the water table and wildlife.

I applaud people who see this as an opportunity to restore, but the practice to which it got to that place has become deplorable to the point of being criminal in my opinion. These 'opportunities' should not be condoned.

Our neighbors said it only took the logging company a few days to harvest the 9 acers. I also think it’s criminal! The permit only cost them $100. And because they did not have the land surveyed all the county does is slap a building/ development moratorium on a portion of the land so wealthy folks can’t put a up McMansion. The logging company is also required (but in some cases they don’t follow through) to plant (250) conifers per/acer. We have certain peramiters to work with on the moratorium portion of the property. We can build small structures and put in trails and plant/trees. But yeah, logging company’s really do some shady buisness and it is really disturbing.

So I guess I’m a few years late on a response for this thread. We live on the key peninsula in Washington state. We just bought 10 acres last October. Nine out of the 10 acres has been logged. So of course we are super grateful for the 1 acre of woods that was spared.  So I like this thread for a few reasons. One is I can directly relate because I’m living on logged land. Two I’ve been asking myself the same questions. 3 my wife and I have been using Purmaculture methods for about five years now. Four is  hopefully I can connect with some other landowners who are living on previously logged land in our area.

We just moved full-time onto the property 10 days ago. So although we’ve technically owned the land since last October we haven’t been here full-time only making periodic visits to do some light excavation and stump removal where are tiny home will be built.  We have enjoyed watching and observing the land through the end of summer and into fall, all the way through winter and now we are in spring here which is right now extremely rainy. We decided we don’t want to get too crazy with our planting just yet would you want to do a couple of vegetable beds and cover crops over HUGE huga beds.  We may do a few trees not totally sure yet. It was refreshing to hear some of the comments regarding land that has been quite decimated and what the biodiversity after that looks like. We have much biodiversity on this 10 acres. Everything  that is doing well is flourishing. We  have massive amounts of huckleberry. We have native BlackBerry that is really going crazy.  So where there was distruction for one part of our forest it is open many doors for other things to start happening and it’s really cool to kind of see what’s going on with the land. My wife and I have said from the beginning it’s a blank canvas and permaculture is gunna heal this land.  Anyways, just thought I’d share a little of my insight. No one  might even see this thread response but if you do and you have more questions about what we have going on feel free to contact me. We are at the very beginning of our restoration project for our land.✌🏼

Greetings!

Note: we are from South Puget Sound WA. Olympia/Tacoma area.

We are selling our house of 15 years in the next couple of months. We expect after the dust settles, to walk with around 80k. We have purchased a 29' travel trailer as our transition home while we 1)  acquire land
2) start building our strawbale home/off grid homestead permaculture dream world!

Here's the road block. We cannot decide if we want to put 25-35% down on land, and fianance the rest ...OR, go smaller and purchase out right.

By selling the house, we are paying off all debts (not a lot) including the trailer. We want to go off grid debt free. This comes from much advise by off griders. NO DEBT!

Anybody have a simlair situation here? There are many more details to this journey. I would honestly love to chat with anyone wanting to listen to more details. We are a family of four and it's been our dream to make this move for a long time now.

✌🏼🌱