Brian Catlin

That sounds like some logical and awesome ideas to start and makes it less overwhelming to get started.  I will definitely do that.  As I can even do that in my backyard until I do finally find my land I want to purchase.  The land I looked at was to rough on surrounding areas and I am pretty big on taking care of my stuff and attention to detail. I try to make things neat and well trimmed.  I cannot even let kids mow my yard because their attention to detail is horrible so I have to go back and weedeat again and mow again.    Now my wife might argue as she says I make mess in kitchen but with the yard I figure if going to do the work do it right.   So the yard has always been my thing.    Anyway thanks for great advice will certainly get started on that!

was going to look at the books but the website is no longer up.

Thanks!   I am also thinking about Bees as well.  I never thought about flowers before but wild flowers that come back on their own that I dont have to constantly take care of would be ok I guess.  I am sure my wife like that.   She has some plants I water for her every day but mainly because I found little frogs in it so I like to check on them.  

I always loved all animals and even pick up worms out of road so they dont burn up when walk my dog and throw them back in the grass.      

I am meat eater but while I was raised as a child in deep woods on lake that is different than farm where deal with all that stuff so not sure how I deal with taking an animals life probably something I need to come to grips with and not see them all as pets this is something I think be hard for me.  I am ex military and taking life out of necessity for survival or protecting my family or others is not an issue but doing so while I can still by stuff out of grocery store is something I struggle with as I have never did it.  I can hunt but I dont though I do know that its important to keep populations down I just had a baby deer as a kid that kind of put a stop to me hunting them unless forced to.  

So I have alot of mental maturity and struggles there as I know God put us here as shepherds of the world and he provided food both meat and plant life for us.    

I know farmers probably think I am being ridiculous but I just don't know that life and I love life so have some learning to do.  The issue is if I don't learn ow I may struggle when the need arises at least on field dressing and such and doing it humanely and using something other than weapon such as rifle.  Also it seems like our food supply is being poisoned and genetically manipulated so to be healthy I perhaps need to do this or find others who do and can purchase healthy organic type meats.

Thom Bri wrote:A good place to start is David the Good. He has several books out, a website, and lot of youtube videos.

https://www.amazon.com/Grow-Die-Guide-Survival-Gardening/dp/195528900X/ref=sr_1_8?crid=1O9LA30VVXW8V&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gbO6esjhWFZXrTyOjVWn2l6EPwX2tYPXxHfrFoxhGudCzrtI-j0KHaYA1moFtX4AvdNKH5CD0scgSNDY0JHwrBU9hPFRDXIaLdGUSf4KdAxL7AynGuSDEEkOilgGreBHPw4O41uhnqYFwI1P1IoiYKwzyqdhljqfRzShRwqWuvsPNkRwJCl3yBfHxTiWlnY47xf3OhZaODOxlwhFLUthhDnlexDJtvE3ei2WFeNUkdM.QeKSesZfoUaB1rnfBcoFTf_ui6KLFokm5MIpzV5r74c&dib_tag=se&keywords=survival+gardening+book&qid=1724883756&sprefix=surviva%3B+garde%2Caps%2C539&sr=8-8

That said, you can't really learn gardening by reading books. It takes dirt under the fingernails.

Thanks!  We started looking at Land today my wife is signing off on buying land 20 minutes outside of Town.   We will have to put in well and septic but electric pole right at end of drive way so thats good.   10 acres but seems I could do a lot of cool projects on that 10 acres most all of its wooded but was thinking maybe put in a 1/2 - 2 acre pond and stock it with bass, bluegill and catfish maybe few carps for weeds.  I dont know just thought but excited about having land!    I picked up three books by him John Good.   Grocery Row Gardening, Grow or Die, Compost Everything.    I also bought about 6 other books earlier some just specific to plants in Oklahoma and off grid medic book etc...  think I am about done with books at this point need to start reading and then start some projects maybe simple stuff at first especially if buy new property.

Aaron Yarbrough wrote:Welcome to Permies! I always steer people just getting started towards Gaia's Garden by Toby Hemenway. It's an intro to permaculture focused on people with suburban lots.

Thanks I ordered this book in paperback will be here tomorrow. 3

Also trying to figure out this reply system and forums its a bit different than I am use to where normally you can click reply to a post not just reply in general at bottom.

quite a bit if shade in back yard against back fence and on the East side.   More Sun in middle and west fence side.      

I love animals if my plants feeds animals as well that's great dont need them for survival yet though I am pretty interested in prepping type stuff but decided it was time to get started.  

I have money though not wealthy just Network Engineer and Architect (IT not physical world lol... big difference as one builds physical things I dont but I want to learn).  

I like off grid stuff and want to start practicing as a Hobby.   Just bought a tone of books when bought:   "A Navy SEAL’s Bug-In Guide Physical "   then it had popup for "The Enhanced Bug-In Library"  so being a sucker for learning bought that then another popup came up with "The Lost Books Bundle" so bought that lol... I mean my drug of choice is learning so lol....     Still trying to read through all that stuff and I need to check if some stuff in there.  Probably going to buy some additional books as well.

I want to learn gardening not sure where to start.  

I bought Food Forrest Bible but that is more advanced and keeps referring to know plants in your local area.  

I was going to start in my backyard.     Read about canopy trees like nut and fruit trees then sub canopy then Shrub layer etc... That is all great.  However, I think I need basics like soil and fertilizer making compose maybe.   Normally if I knew someone I would go help them with their stuff and learn from them but I just need to get started at the very least reading if its to late to do any actual growing.     I like physical work so perhaps I could start projects to start prepping.  

Is there books or sites or videos or something to get started.  I currently want to start in back yard but hope to eventually get 5-10 acres and branch out on all types of stuff.   Anyway never grew anything in my life really so just want to a lead on where to start researching as I do love to learn and since my real world job is Network Engineering I tend to love doing things outside like mowing with hand held instead of the riding mower and just being close to the earth.   So pretty excited to do this also thinking about maybe 5-8 chickens for eggs but realize that is different subject but any help or direction would be great for total beginner wanting to become very knowledgeable and grow my own food and learn how to can and do all the long lost forgotten stuff.

Thanks for any input!  If your in area I don't mind helping others with their stuff to learn as never been to proud to help out as long as I am learning and growing.