C Sanchez

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I have 9x 320watt panels powering my primary system. A single 320w panel powering an emergency system for the main house that I never use.

4x 180w panels powering an outpost with the guest trailer.

The main house runs on 15kwh of lithium server rack batteries. I intended to add more but it honestly feels unnecessary. I may add more panels for winter but honestly everything is working quite well currently.
3 months ago

Michael Qulek wrote:Rather than focusing attention on crimping right now, I'd recommend you focus more attention on overall system design, and worry about crimping later.

The grinder or sander will be your biggest loads, and I focus on supplying those first.  Other stuff is trivial compared to the draws those two will need.  If you focus your attention on those, the rest will be easy.

A good rule of thumb I follow is to have about 2X your largest load as for how many solar Watts you need.  So with a 800W load, maybe 1600W of solar panels.  The good news is that high-voltage residential panels are getting dirt-cheap right now, and you can find 30V/250W panels for 40-50$ right now.  So, six of those would be close to perfect in terms of meeting your wattage needs.  That's about 300$ right now in the cash and carry market.  Don't order panels online!  You will pay outrageous shipping fees.  Shop locally on Craigslist, with cash and carry purchases.

The amperage to handle 1600W is a bit too high for a basic 12V system, so I'd recommend going with at least 24V.  That's what I have in my workshop right now.  In terms of a budget charge controller, take a look at Epver's new XTRA Series MPPT Solar Charge Controller.  40A of current at up to 150V, for only 120$.  40A would be good for more than 1000W of panels.  In general, it's OK to exceed the recommended amps of a unit.  Under no circumstances though should you ever exceed the voltage.  Remember though that the voltage of panels goes up as the temperature goes down.  A good safety margin is ~20-25%.  So, for a 150V controller, never surpass ~120Voc.  That should be good for three 30V panels in series.  Their Voc at freezing is going to be ~40Voc.

I have a clamp meter with "inrush current" capability.  What I've found is that the brief starting surge for motors that start under load is ~4X.  So, for that grinder or sander that needs 800W to run, expect them to need up to 3200W for less than 1 second to start.  So, I'd suggest shopping for at least a 3000W 24V inverter.  Get Sine-Wave for anything that will be running an electric motor.  Cheaper modified sine-wave models are well-known for burning out electric motors in short order.

Lastly, you'll need batteries.  You might want to take a look at CostCo's 210Ah 6V golf-cart battery.  At 110$ right now, you'd need four of them in series to make a 24V battery bank.  That would be 440$ plus tax and core charges.  Assuming you don't drain these lead-acid batteries more than 50%, you'd have 2.5kWh of available power.

If you built a rotating array frame like I have, you could reduce your panels needed to down to 1000W.  My frame easily holds four large residential panels in portrait, but can hold as many as six oriented in landscape.  I just sunk a 3.5" schedule 40 pipe in concrete, and slipped a 4" schedule 40 pipe on top of it.  The array frame is welded to the top of the 4" pipe.  This will allow you to rotate (by hand) East in the morning, South around noon, and West in the afternoon.  That will basically double the number of watthours you can make in a day.

BTW, I've made excellent terminals for my solar wire with cut lengths of copper tubing.  For my 000 battery wire, I belled 1/2" copper tubing, slid the wire halfway inside, then flattened the other end.  Once flattened, I soldered the wire to the tubing.  I then drilled 5/16" inch holes in the flattened ends to accommodate that stainless steel mounting bolts I used to attach the batteries to the inverter.



I disagree with the recommendation for the golf cart batteries. 5kwh of lithium with full usable capacity can be had for about $800 if you play your cards right. Lifespan is 3-4x that of lead acid and it performs better to boot. It’s straight up cheaper over the life of your system if you plan to use it longer than 7 years.

Also, just buy crimp cable lugs. They’re UL listed and chances are your local electrical supply house will let you borrow or rent a hydraulic crimper. Don’t DIY something that will be carrying big amps. Don’t be afraid of big amps but build appropriately for them.

Otherwise I think this advice is good.
3 months ago
One option to consider that hasn’t been suggested yet is a direct DC mini split air conditioner. These are relatively new and getting affordable. They can run 4-8modern 360-400w solar panels straight into the unit depending on voltages and AC size. They always dehumidify, and can keep a stable temp and humidity as long as the sun shines. Many have remote app control if that’s something you care about.

If your primary goal is to keep humidity down, and you don’t care about a versatile system that also makes home electricity I wouldn’t hesitate to get one of these newer Dc solar mini splits. They’re quite good. I’ve installed quite a few and the customers are happy with them.
3 months ago

Jr Hill wrote:

I am new here and this is about the first time I've been able to comment on something worth writing. You can McGivor whatever but if you aren't available SOMEONE has to follow up behind you. Don't put this on other people. Build, as best you can, something that is manageable, by those behind you. If you love them you won't saddle them with a complex system that no one can operate in your absence.



This is the truth! I have iterated and refined my off grid solar system to be as simple as possible and easy for my elderly mother and lady friend to use just in case I get electrocuted at work or get hit by a truck or whatever.

There is currently no better upgrade to your offgrid solar system than moving to lithium batteries. Not all older components will be compatible. The magnum inverter is highly programmable. Some of the older c40/60 style charge controllers with potentiometers complain about battery overvoltage with lithium but can still be made to work. That said, in 2024 there is no reason to buy another lead acid bank. Ever. Flooded. AGM. Doesn’t matter. It’s dead tech. Lithium iron phosphate performance is absolutely night and day. I get up at 4:30am and turn on the toaster and water boiler at the same time and the system doesn’t blink. 100% chance if I did that with my old lead acid the voltage drop would kick my inverter off. Now I’m finding ways to use more electricity to spare propane which is my only real bill. Induction cooktop etc.  

OP you won’t regret the switch.
3 months ago
I’m am both a full time off grid dweller and also a professional solar electrician. Not a salesperson.

For me the payback would be about 10 years for my current system if the grid was present here. It’s not. It’s 6 miles away so it’s a moot point.

Your personal break even or ROI depends on many factors including shade, latitude, cost of system, utility buyback rate and cost per kWh etc.

Panel cleaning is a nonissue. Maintenance is rare. The components mostly just keep on ticking.

I second David’s opinion about SolArk and the ability to add batteries. That’s mostly the brand of inverter I’m installing these days. My home system is outdated. Midnite Classic charge controllers and a magnum 4448 inverter. Bulletproof but low tech compared to todays offerings.

Im obviously a solar advocate. For most people it makes sense and the tech especially batteries just keeps getting better and less fussy.
3 months ago