Eino Kenttä wrote:
Derek Thille wrote:
Could "mincing" with a hatchet work? My brain went to mincing onions, but on a different scale. I'd imagine green cones could have some stickiness that might adhere to the hatchet, but that might be acceptable.
Just a thought.
...Or maybe put them on a solid surface and whack them with a hammer until everything is as finely divided as you like? I imagine for this the stickiness might be an advantage - rather than having pieces flying off every which way, you'd get a wad of sticky pulp stuck to the hammer and/or the bottom surface.
Edit to add: when I took a tanning course, the tannin material we used most was bark of Norway spruce (Picea abies), since that's the single most common tree in the area and the bark contains a lot of tannin. We'd boil strips of bark, that we got from a sawmill, for quite a while, this was a bunch of years ago but I seem to remember about one hour boiling and one hour of the bark steeping in the liquid while it was cooling off. The colour of the liquid was very dark brown, way darker than any other species we used. I'm wondering if spruce bark might be a good candidate for ink making?
r ransom wrote:I was contemplating that. They are very dense, woody cones so not with a knife. Too small for a saw. The secateurs had potential but would take forever because the cones are too small. Because mine are so fresh, they have too much sticky to use the mortar and pestle.
I'm going to let mine sit a while, maybe strain and add water and try again tomorrow. Failing that, some rusty metal will make a colour.
I'm also thinking of adding vinegar to see if that changes anything.
Phil Stevens wrote:
Jay Angler wrote:It seems as if Mike and Phil think there's something fishy about that map... (sorry, couldn't resist!)
Good catch!
Victor Johanson wrote:Good points. I don't harvest the ones growing under trees; they're strictly companion plants. Valerian will grow tall and poke up into the tree; mind can top 8' here in Fairbanks. They bloom a little late here, during a time when most nectar/pollen sources are spent, so it's nice to have something to fill that niche. Be advised they will aggressively spread.
Jenny Wright wrote:Also we had another seeding surprise us! It's as old as it oldest seedlings and I didn't even notice it flower this spring but it has bright red tiny apples, singly, through the tree that I can see from across my yard. Unfortunately the peel is very, very bitter. Completely unpalatable. Like I'm spitting and gagging it's so bitter! The inside is sweet but it's so tiny, there isn't anything really to salvage. I'll keep trying them too but it isn't a pleasant experiment.