colonel forbin

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on a quest to overcome the mountainous wilderness and fulfill a vow to deliver the helping friendly book to the people, so they might deliver themselves from a terrible fate of doing things smart people don't do.
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I'm a former musician and religious studies scholar, self-publisher and irrigation technician. Jack of all hobbies and one of those weirdo Phish fans.
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Okay so we are in the beginning stages of sculpting our acreage in the hills of East Tennessee. I spent weekends cutting trees and building a driveway with fill, geo fabric and gravel. The driveway will cross a seasonal creek that's currently stagnant (slightly swampy clay soil just downstream from neighbor's retention pond). Most of the rest of the property is uphill, and we plan to terrace the south-facing slope, but parking here any time the weather is warm, either to visit or do work, means fighting flies and mosquitoes as long as you're not either tending to a fire or hiking around.

Our question is how to start making immediate changes in the early foundational stage of our homestead on forested land, to discourage or cull back the pest insect population. I guess the first thing we could think of was planting any/all sensible berry trees/bushes in order to attract birds that might stay for the bugs, but even that could take years. Is there anything we're missing, other than planting some herbs (lemon balm, etc.) to use as repellant?

What we already know (but are not yet able to implement) is that:
A)  virtually any species of bird will help,
B) fish in a cultivated pond will help,
C) predatory insects (wasps, etc.) will help,
D) various fly traps and eliminating stagnant water (buckets, tarps) should be 101,
and E) bats devour mosquitoes BUT also carry diseases we don't want anywhere near our daughter
1 year ago
Thanks Bronson, maybe I will.  The basic idea might have partially come from steel sprayer hoses you find in the dish pit if you ever worked in a restaurant. I guess as long as I'm able to get a very high heat approved hose AND if the rest of the system is designed competently, it should work.

Bengi, I'll try to answer everything. I think the first two lines of questioning might mistake my design. At any rate it's not supposed to swing itself like a thermostat. The idea would involve sturdy hinges anchored to the (likely brick) heat shield wall behind the stove, on a protruding part of the wall that gives it clearance to swing like a small fence gate and lay flat against the wall simply. The reason I say the heat shield can protrude is it might be built as a partial enclosure around the back corners, for thermal mass as well as a safety barrier for foot traffic around a nearby door. The hole through which these hoses pass would be part of the design of this shielding. The panel would swing by hand, and if it is in use there will be at least one thermometer we can monitor, along with a pressure relief valve (with drainage). As a passive system I would assume the water temperature in the tank maintains its own stratification.

"How do you make it fail gracefully?" is going to be one of my new favorite phrases so thank you for that. In this case I would hope enough of the pipe is corrugated and/or otherwise flexible, so if the hinges busted out from the mortar or something I'd hope it would have enough slack to fall a few inches to the ground. As for steam explosions, with temperature gauges and a relief valve on my side I'd hope it never gets close to that point before I could just swing it back to the off position.

The water would be set up the way most passive heating works, with a cold intake on the lower edge of the "door" or panel, and the heat exit end of the pipe on top, going through the (in operation, straightened) flexible tubing going up at an angle to a storage tank on the other side of the wall. This will be our ersatz "laundry room" type space in one way or another. Floor heating would require a separate setup I think, and this will be a small 20x20ish space (to start with anyway). Whether we manage to rough it by using wood for all our cooking, or if we stock up propane for a burner stove, that's probably going to be the bigger question for hot water in summer.
2 years ago
Longtime reader first-time poster:

My partner and I are DIY-designing our off-grid cabin and one obvious stumbling block for lots of us is how to heat water safely, efficiently, cheaply, etc.
Researching our options I notice lots of people use propane but we'd like to avoid relying on it, so naturally instead we are looking to utilize our main source of heat: a steel wood stove. I've seen there's problems with coiling around the chimney pipe because it over-cools the internal exhaust convection, and there can be over-heating problems if the pipes are built into the stove. One instructor from Living Web Farms pointed out he just puts a big 16 gallon open-lid brewer's kettle on the cooktop of his stove and heats up directly that way. Heating like a kettle seems best because A) it's on an as-needed basis, and B) you can remove it if the water is too hot or the stove needs to heat up evenly. But it's hard for me to imagine a bulky, un-piped kettle working well for showers.

I'm throwing this out there because I haven't seen anyone else do this before. Some folks use expensive water "jackets" externally mounted onto the back or side of the firebox stove, and others rig up a kind of "serpentine" panel of copper piping (like the one in the picture below) for the water to flow across as much surface area as possible to mimic a jacket but maintain continual flow.

What I've considered doing is basically using the latter design, enclosing the pipes in a heat-conductive panel on a hinge (or two) and just using flexible, heat-resistant, corrugated stainless steel hoses for both the inlet and outlet ends of the otherwise copper loop attached to a storage tank. I might keep the tank on the other side of the wall behind where the stove is, so if the fire is going all day but the finite water in the tank is hot enough we can just fold that panel 90 degrees away from the stove so that it's flat against the wall.

Does that make sense?
2 years ago