Steve Rowe

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Retired remodeling contractor turned organic farmer, I am happily married and have one child.Just here to find like minded Christians to connect with and possibly land to share or purchase... If you are starting or involved with a Christian community I'd love to chat with you. God Bless
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I asked this question in the Intentional Community and probably should have put it here instead;

is there anyone around the Hillsboro area of Wisconsin? Considering relocating to that area and I am looking for information on organic (not certified) farming and construction related opportunities there. I'm not interested in looking at chamber of commerce stuff or reading website info, I want to talk with people who actually live and farm/garden there.  I'd like to hear your opinions/experiences with the growing seasons and what kind of Winters that area has. What the watering situation is like(can I rely on rain at all in the Summer or will I have to water everyday). Also, what kinds pests/ beneficial critters are there, how well fruit trees and other types fruits grow especially strawberries and raspberries.. Is the season good enough to grow mature sweet corn and determinate tomatoes outside of a greenhouse etc. And if anyone is looking for help this season on their farm, I am interested in finding somewhere to do that while looking for a farm to move onto...
1 year ago

Tamara Carroll wrote:Hi Steve,
I live quite close to that area. You can easily grow the things you wish to grow. In fact, we excel with corn and berries here. Currently I am growing apple trees, honeyberries, gooseberries, blackberries, black raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, a cherry tree, potatoes, onions, and the regular garden vegetables.  I have an herbal/medicinal garden and I just planted somerset grape vines too. Hillsboro is far enough south that you get a jump on the growing season as compared to Northern WI.  I grew up in Northern WI and we grew everything just fine there too. While it rains often enough , plan on watering too, as Wisconsin is unpredictable, especially in late summer. It may rain two or three days straight but then be dry for two weeks... you just never know. We water our plants. Wisconsin has a large Christian community, my family included.  In Hillsboro there is a Christian camp called Trail Ridge Camp that may need some help. My family has been there and they are about the best camp out there... real good people. There are so many contractors in the area, hungry for workers. You could always help one out. off and on.  People with your skills do fine just starting a little handyman business. Additionally, there's lots of farms in the area. You would not have trouble making a go of it here. Reach out if you have more questions.  Wisconsinites are generally a friendly bunch of people. Prepare to have strangers wave at you and your family as you drive down the road, and they will also chat with you in the line at the grocery store.  
Wisconsin is targeted by many political organizations (in a bad way) as Wisconsin is one of the swing states, so we get our fair share of propaganda thrown at us on a regular basis, and they spend a lot of time and money in the schools trying to indoctrinate our children to their particular ways of thinking. Other than that, Wisconsin is one of the best states, in my humble opinion.



Thanks for all the info Tamara! If you have the time-a few more questions you could probably answer since you live close to there...?  What does the average Winter look like? How cold in the coldest month, how much snow accumulates etc. When does the snow begin to melt off? How windy is it there, a constant 30 miles an hour or just certain times of the year or what? How hot does it get in the hottest part of Summer? Is there a lot of good water available/is it heavily regulated...? Would that area be considered a little bit of a banana belt?  Just trying to get a general sense of what I need to plan on dealing with from an agrarian standpoint so any info you can pass on is greatly appreciated!!


Hey is there anyone around the Hillsboro area of Wisconsin? Considering relocating to that area and I am looking for information on organic (not certified) farming and construction related opportunities there. I'm not interested in looking at chamber of commerce stuff or reading website info, I want to talk with people who actually live and farm/garden there.  I'd like to hear your opinions/experiences with the growing seasons and what kind of Winters that area has. What the watering situation is like(can I rely on rain at all in the Summer or will I have to water everyday). Also, what kinds pests/ beneficial critters are there, how well fruit trees and other types fruits grow especially strawberries and raspberries.. Is the season good enough to grow mature sweet corn and determinate tomatoes outside of a greenhouse etc. And if anyone is looking for help this season on their farm, I am interested in finding somewhere to do that while looking for a farm to move onto...

Ned Harr wrote:Cool idea, definitely see the draw. I do wonder a lot how much you can separate the lifestyle from the religion. Staying close enough to visit without needing a car is a big part of the Amish value system, as of course is the intentionality around technology, but those ultimately stem from a desire to live in a humble, simple, and self-sufficient way, which the Amish see as mandated by their Anabaptist faith.

Related, possibly of interest to you: https://www.newphilosopher.com/articles/the-art-of-amistics/

We (we here on Permies, most of us) already choose to live like the Amish, I think, in certain ways. It's definitely what I think of when I see people use phrases like "appropriate technology".

It's a fascinating topic!



Ned, you can separate the religion from the lifestyle... Virtually everyone used to live the way the Amish do before modern technology took over. They don't have a corner on the market just because of their religion, they are simply some of the last in the US to be living that way. Half the world still lives non electric/agrarian, though it is heading away from that at lightning speed... That said, the Amish are one of, if not the fastest growing segments of society because of their family structure  and lifestyle-though it remains to be seen if they can keep that up or if they get swallowed up by modern technology and its trappings...
Yikes it already got hijacked... So, New Order Mennonites don't live anywhere near the lifestyle as Old Order Amish... The question was directed towards those 'who do, or are' living like the Amish 'without their religious beliefs'...And I'd like to steer it back to that question, before we get lost on Philosophy or other religions. If you don't already live similar to the Amish or are not interested in doing so, please don't comment on this topic, as it will just lead to an entirely different conversation and defeat the purpose of starting it. Thanks in advance!
Is there anyone out there who wants to live like the Amish/Plain People, but without their religious rules?  Not in a communal sort of way on one piece of ground, but as neighbors on adjacent pieces of property or close by for networking... Or are you already doing it or know of people who are?
Hi Paul,

So if you google 'homeschool laws in North Carolina' a website called HSLDA.org will pop up. Go to their website and they have a map of the states that shows the homeschool rating. You'll see where NC sits and if you click on the state it will bring up the regulations.If you compare NC with say Idaho, Texas or MIssouri, you'll see things like reporting requirements, assessments, and a few other things that most homesteader/homeschooler people today(especially Christians like us) don't want to have to deal with. Many feel it is not the states business how we raise our children or what methods we use to teach them, so we are avoiding those states.  Anyway, that's just one obstacle you may have, and another I can see is maybe whether or not your plan for the property fits what others want to do (many may not want to have a retreat/healing center etc) so the long term strategy could be an issue.. Building codes and other restrictions in your area may be another issue (I haven't checked them so I don't know for sure). Anyway, hope that sheds a little light on things for you! And my perspective may not be of the majority opinion, so take it with a grain of salt as they say.

Sincerely,
Steve  
If only it wasn't in North Carolina... The homeschool laws in NC are onerous, and my guess is that most people who are looking to 'community homestead' today will be wanting to be some where that has better homeschool laws...If you don't get many responses, that would be one big reason why. And if you have received lot's of responses via your email, I would be curious what demographic they are from- it is; younger w/no children, older with no children, retired, middle aged with children that are public school advocates, etc...

Tyler Hill wrote:So I recently had three large oak trees felled by the city in my backyard that were encroaching on power lines. I’m working on processing the wood into firewood but it’s a big project. Most of the wood I’ve yet to process I’ve stacked on pallets to get them off the damp ground and allow air flow. Some of it however is far too heavy for me to move until I’ve chopped it into shorter pieces and split the shorter pieces and so it’s just been lying directly on the ground.

In the section of Lars Mytting’s book Norwegian Wood entitled “Wood That Never Dries” he writes “in deciduous trees for which the drying conditions are poor at the outset, the moisture content never falls to the level it does in timber that has been dried quickly… The rule is never to let timber lie wet in the forest…get it back home and chop, split, and stack it.” My question is this: How quickly does wood need to be removed from the ground if one wants it to dry properly? There must be a length of time that is acceptable to let wood lie on the ground if one can’t immediately move it for whatever reason. I just have no idea if that length of time is one hour or one week or one month or whatever. This is a fairly new area of interest for me and I’m feeling rather in over my head so any input is appreciated.



My two cents as someone who processes firewood and sells it...  I am assuming its in random lengths right now...? If so, the first thing I would do is buck it up into the lengths you want and the rounds can sit for a long time before they will rot.  Piling the rounds random and loosely (standing up like a tire rather than laying them flat on a pallet) will help with air flow-which will benefit the drying process... Also, my experience with oak is it splits better green and when its freezing temps outside... (but that may be my imagination ha ha). I would get it split asap though, Oak takes along time to season and the longer it dries, the better it'll burn... I'd personally try to get it done now, so it can sit out in the sun all Summer long and cook in the heat before you put it away...

Best regards
Steve
1 year ago