Joshua Parise

Cristo Balete wrote:Deer can go through amazingly narrow spaces betweenhorizontal  barbed wires, especially fawns, while mom stands right there watching.  And they go quite quickly.  Maybe a minimum of 5 inches between horizontal boards would deter them.   My barbed wire is 8 inches and they fly right through it.

Fishing line doesn't show well, especially at night, for deer to get tripped by, and especially for birds, like groups of birds that can panic/take off fast and fly straight into it. You wouldn't want a hunting hawk going at high speed to not see that fishing line until it's too late, or a group of quail, or small birds that eat your bugs.  You want all critters to have plenty of warning to not even try it.  

That's why colored poly rope, which is usually blue or white, (and several free sources from neighbors) around the top lets everyone see it, including you, in case some of it comes down for whatever reason.  You can stand in one place and survey the top line of the fence and see that it's all in place.

Thanks!  Yes there is only a couple inches between each board.  I’m also looking at some cattle gates as entrance points.   This are only 5-6 feet tall but believe I could build something ontop of them to be made taller.

Paul Fookes wrote:Charring is a great way pf preserving wood.  If I were doing it, I would char the whole post.  Dig the hole down at least 2 ', place a rock in the hole to keep the post off the ground.  Insert the posts and tamp down well.  From my experience, using concrete enables water holding and promotes rot.  If you need further bracing, use a "t' post driven in the ground 3' or more then nail off to the post.
To make the orchard less attractive to larger pests such as deer and the like, use the fence as a trellis for berry canes.  Some one else may be able to find the thread here on Permies.  Unfortunately I can't at this time.

I would not use copper anything as a first line preservative.  It is noted as an organic product so fits with the permies philosophy but not using is is better.  Linseed is good but charring is better.  And Linseed needs to be reapplied.
We look forward to seeing your progress

this is very helpful.. What an amazing community I have a lot to learn.    how often would I need to reapply the linseed oil.  Can I spray it on, diluted with???   and how much will I need to do a fence like that around at least an acre.....  is there any linseed oils to stay away from as well?  

What would you do to Tamp it down?  Also without concrete I wold wrap the whole bottom in the Deck joist tape....

Paul Fookes wrote:From my reading, canes and bramble berries confuse them because they cannot see the other side.   I was just putting it out there as a great addition to his orchard with some additional fruit.  We have a 6' mesh fence around our orchard which is ferrel animal resistant.  I am going to be planting 6 different berries on it as a wind break to stop the fruit getting wind burn in mid summer and as a frost barrier in winter.  The brambles will act as a visual deterrent.

this is a great idea.  I will look into this. the fence will be woritzonal flats like the picture

I was wrong the posts are 8 feet tall.  The fence will look like the one in the pictures, with wood slats.  No termites, live in Wisconsin.   We are surrounded by farms, the deer have sweet corn for day and strawberries and everything else to much on that isn't fenced in .  

for voles and rabbits we will have the trunk protectors.   I might place some metal posts 1-2 feet up above the wood posts with some fishing line tied to the 12 gauge dummy shell.  Figure the deer hit that once or twice and will never ever come back

What about the technique of preserving the pine.   Linseed oil or Copper‐Green Brown Wood Preservative or teak oil?   I really don't want to protect the fence every year.    Ive also thought about painting the pine with deck over, that lasts about 5 years.    

We have rough cut pine posts and fence boards. Believe they are 6x6 6 feet long posts.  Planting 140 fruit trees and the goal is try to keep the deer out…

Current plan is to char the bottom 16-18 inches of the fence posts and then apply either a linseed oil or copper wood preservative to the rest.  Wrap the bottom of the post in deck tape 16-18 inches.  Dig holes fill with gravel and set in concrete with a domed top

Looking for any feedback, my skill set is low

Pic attached as our fence will mimick and attach to these fences.