gerome drypond wrote:So great to see a bunch of people considering to change their lifestyle. I read a wide variety of ideas and vision and that's a good start!
I've been through all these questions and wonder myself.
And now I'm living in an eco-village in Latvia.
But it took me 2 years of exploration and experiences to discover many places but most importantly to discover myself (what I truly wanted).
What helped me the most was to drop the internet research and plan a 6 months trip to discover many eco-villages while volunteering.
What are you situations at this moment?
Miguel Romero wrote:Hello everyone. Just a quick update to let everyone know that my situation has not changed much since my initial post and I am still active on the subject and have received some contacts by the private messaging system. I welcome those of you who have reached the same conclusions as I have especially through experience that it is essential to try to establish a community following natural principles (i.e, social permaculture). This implies strict adherence to TRUTH / REALITY (natural moral philosophy through scientific investigation and experience) and is complementary to the "physical permaculure" that most people already recognize superficially. In other words, for one to be successful the other needs to be also, practicing both guided by the results (i.e., experimentally / experientially). This approach combines physical, socioeconomic, ecological sciences and principles systemically and holistically (integratively) to best harmonize with nature, and thus underpin any chance / claim for sustainability. Nature is after all a complex adaptive system, and true living / thriving requires integrating our lives with it deeply / systemically as social "animals" in the ecosystem, i.e., using communities based on natural scientific principles.
Otherwise, I encourage everyone to give serious consideration to the above concepts, and do your own research (including historical, especially of traditional societies most of which have been destroyed). Also include your own observations and experiments practicing rivaling concepts (from individualistic, intentional community type approaches based ultimately on wishes and intentions of individuals vs. the integrative ecosystemic approaches where the community is organized on the basis of necessity to create a balance with nature / following natural principles i.e., as a means to serve nature, and not the goal to serve the ego).
A true community requires a deep understanding and practice of logic (i.e., natural law / law of consequences / law of harvest), which the traditional cultures practiced as "common sense" and kept them sustainable for so long, creating a natural order and relative peace, essential for their health / longevity / sustainability. Having lost this tremendous wealth (the culture tying us to nature through time, evidence of perma - culture) in most of the world, we should not be surprised at the diseased state of the vast majority of individuals in the world and our sorry state, akin to deracinated plants that could not survive long despite all artificial interventions (as in our artificial global socioeconomic system). The difficult task at hand should be obvious for those serious about permaculture.
Max Daix wrote:Hey Dareois,
I'm a 34 French-american, living in the SW of France (in the 81330 zipcode). Last year we got 1600mm and this year I'm gonna guess more like 1100-1200. So a good amount of rain but in my opinion not too much.
I'll echo what other people said... "it depends". There are regions/mairies that are quite strict and other places where you kind find mayors really bending rules to get young people to move there - and the difference can be within 10km.
So yeah, still a lot of nice spots, with ruins and opportunities especially you're willing to put in the work.
If you ever go on an exploration road trip to this area hit me.
Currently the land touching my land is for sale 37H for 95k. Forest and prairies, water, some ruins, but you're looking more at 4x4 access for the last 200m, not so bad actually. I can't afford it but would love for it to NOT be bought up by a bank and then clear cut.
Feel free to email me. maxmeniolle @ protonmail dot com
Mariya Bee wrote:Hey nature lovers! I'm a Russian gal who grew up in NYC since age one. I've been going through a major spiritual awakening for over 10 years now and realized the city is not for me in the midst of it all. I'm not religious. I'd love to meet someone who I feel happy and at home with, someone who I'm intuitively certain about. "When you know, you know" as they say.
My interests include releasing tech addiction and spending time in nature. I'd love to create a space where others can reconnect with something simple and sacred that has been slipping away.
If a lifestyle without smartphones, computers, tv, artificial lights, power lines, electricity, clocks, calendars, and vices sounds appealing to you, then let's chat!
Victoria Forestqueen wrote:Hey there!
Looking for a man that is also interested in homesteading or is already homesteading.
I'd like to have a family, so ideally men 28 to 38.
I’m an adventurous, grounded soul with a deep love for nature and sustainable living. I love spend my days gardening, foraging, exploring, and being in the forest whenever I can. I’m passionate about permaculture, herbalism, mushrooms, and living in harmony with the earth.
I enjoy quiet moments with a good book and the simple things, like sunsets with a bottle wine. I value honesty, curiosity, communication and kindness, and I’m looking for someone who shares a love of the outdoors, meaningful work, and hands-on living.
Louise Brinkers wrote:Hi! We’re a small family with a baby (almost 6 months old) and we’re looking to visit permaculture projects in Northern Spain (Galicia, Asturias, Cantabria, Basque Country) and possibly in Northern Portugal to learn hands-on and in a regionally adapted way – ideally for a long weekend or a few days.
We bring genuine interest, respect, and a strong desire to learn. We’ve had a first experience with a permaculture project in Portugal, and also spent time on an off-grid farm with animals in Sweden.
If you run a project or know someone who does, we’d love to hear from you! 💚
Timón, Louise & Kian
Nancy Reading wrote:Yes, I gather our climate is pretty similar to parts of the PNW.
Dareios Alexandre wrote:I'm curious do you choose to live there or would you live elsewhere if you had the choice.
We're mostly here for financial reasons. Land, even poor arable land is pretty expensive in the UK if you want to live on it. And we love the Scottish Highlands - clean air and dark skies, distractingly beautiful. I like to live near the sea too.
I always think 'be careful what you wish for' - I might wish for a very little more warmth in summer, but then our soil is so shallow that it wouldn't take much for us to go into drought. Our winters are so mild that many mediterranean plants are quite happy here (given a well drained spot!). There are other aspects that suit me, like lack of streetlights and quiet roads (relatively speaking) so no, I wouldn't want to move![]()
Riona Abhainn wrote:Pro for warmer winters = more of a growing season. Con of warmer winters = the bugs don't always properly die off the way they do in places with colder winters.
Riona Abhainn wrote:Also consider the southern part of Ireland or England, possibly Wales? And maybe parts of Portugal.