Rob Downes

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Nancy Reading wrote:

Rob Downes wrote:We grow several varieties of perennial kale ( Taunton Dean, nine star broccoli and Daubenton. We are in west Cornwall UK, not sure what zone that is in USA. other foods we enjoy are Austarian tree cabbage, sea beat, the wild ancestor to all beats and Chard. Ghard can be perennial if you continue to cut the flower stalk and you dont have harsh winters. Still in the process of converting over to perennials have just planted Turkish rocket but unsure of its taste, however it is great for pollinators and has pretty yellow flowers, so even if its yuk they will stay, its a prolific self seeder so will need to be kept an eye on and is also hard to remove if you dont like it as any tiny piece of root will regrow.



Hi Rob, nice to see another Brit here on Permies!
Perennial kale is good with me too. Only one of the two I started with likes it here on Skye though. I suspect you are theoretically zone 9 there like I am, but US zones don't translate well, since we are too wet in winter and cool in summer compared to the US. The closest climate is the NW of the states: Oregon and Washington I believe.
I'm very hopeful for my Turkish rocket. I've heard the flower buds can be used like broccoli which is interesting to me. I have a few plants which I'm hoping to try this year.  Probably the nicest perennial veg I've tried is my Japanese yam, although I think it needs warmer weather to do well. I find Hablitzia Tamnoides (caucasian spinach) perfectly pleasant too. Asparagus is great, although I grow it mostly in the polytunnel here because of the wind.  I'm still learning to cook solomon's seal to try and reduce the bitterness. there is a really nice undertaste I would describe as pea like, but the bitterness needs reducing a bit further for me.


Hi Nancy, I havent tried Japanese yam myself, our caucasian spinach has struggled, i may be to close to the sea. have you heard of Alan Carter, he forest gardens in allotments and gardens in Aberdeen. He has a new book out which has some good insights for growing perennials up your way.  



lol just read further down the thread and see you do know of Alan Carter
3 years ago

Nancy Reading wrote:

Rob Downes wrote:We grow several varieties of perennial kale ( Taunton Dean, nine star broccoli and Daubenton. We are in west Cornwall UK, not sure what zone that is in USA. other foods we enjoy are Austarian tree cabbage, sea beat, the wild ancestor to all beats and Chard. Ghard can be perennial if you continue to cut the flower stalk and you dont have harsh winters. Still in the process of converting over to perennials have just planted Turkish rocket but unsure of its taste, however it is great for pollinators and has pretty yellow flowers, so even if its yuk they will stay, its a prolific self seeder so will need to be kept an eye on and is also hard to remove if you dont like it as any tiny piece of root will regrow.



Hi Rob, nice to see another Brit here on Permies!
Perennial kale is good with me too. Only one of the two I started with likes it here on Skye though. I suspect you are theoretically zone 9 there like I am, but US zones don't translate well, since we are too wet in winter and cool in summer compared to the US. The closest climate is the NW of the states: Oregon and Washington I believe.
I'm very hopeful for my Turkish rocket. I've heard the flower buds can be used like broccoli which is interesting to me. I have a few plants which I'm hoping to try this year.  Probably the nicest perennial veg I've tried is my Japanese yam, although I think it needs warmer weather to do well. I find Hablitzia Tamnoides (caucasian spinach) perfectly pleasant too. Asparagus is great, although I grow it mostly in the polytunnel here because of the wind.  I'm still learning to cook solomon's seal to try and reduce the bitterness. there is a really nice undertaste I would describe as pea like, but the bitterness needs reducing a bit further for me.


Hi Nancy, I havent tried Japanese yam myself, our caucasian spinach has struggled, i may be to close to the sea. have you heard of Alan Carter, he forest gardens in allotments and gardens in Aberdeen. He has a new book out which has some good insights for growing perennials up your way.  
3 years ago
We grow several varieties of perennial kale ( Taunton Dean, nine star broccoli and Daubenton. We are in west Cornwall UK, not sure what zone that is in USA. other foods we enjoy are Austarian tree cabbage, sea beat, the wild ancestor to all beats and Chard. Ghard can be perennial if you continue to cut the flower stalk and you dont have harsh winters. Still in the process of converting over to perennials have just planted Turkish rocket but unsure of its taste, however it is great for pollinators and has pretty yellow flowers, so even if its yuk they will stay, its a prolific self seeder so will need to be kept an eye on and is also hard to remove if you dont like it as any tiny piece of root will regrow.
3 years ago