Keshav Boddula

wow, the wood being buried underground for so long and it doesn't rot, seriously?! seems amazing to me. i like the suggestions made here, and as i just finished the Building a Better World book, on pg. 138 Paul brings up the need for a solution this thread is attempting to derive.

what about natural rubber? too expensive? i don't mean to discourage the more natural, less processed ideas, but at least natural rubber's biodegradable

hey, i've almost finished with this awesome book.. but one thing i'm unsure of is the part on pg. 128, “need to clear fallen fruits to avoid pests and disease.”  it's in the context of paul praising the benefits of animal-integration, and though the claim seems possible, depending on the situation, it is not so likely, especially if you have healthy plants, healthy soil, and overal a healthy ecosystem, right?

i noticed Mk Neal's post here too that also mentions how it is a good thing (without the necessity or encourgement of animal-integration)

interesting how Mk Neal talks about fallen fruit as a good thing! whereas the Building a Better World in Your Backyard book by Paul says otherwise (praising the benefits of animal-integration), on page 128:
“need to clear fallen fruits to avoid pests and disease.” That strikes me as possible, depending on the situation, but not so likely, especially if you have healthy plants, healthy soil, and overal a healthy ecosystem, right?

I do like and see the rightness in the 2 observations in Paul's original post, and/but have a few points to add (with good, (too?) positive if not the best of spirits/intents, and unlike some of the, um, less-positive descriptive language Paul used):

1) Imagine if there was a scale like this, but for conventional social statuses (which I believe are largely driven by spirits of competition, exclusiveness, & maybe a lot of those "less-positive" attitudes too, you know?).  So 2 conventional-oriented scales that come to mind are (a) academic achievement (from drop-outs/all Fs to Harvard scholarship for example) and (b) income (basically like from broke to billionaire).  Regarding Observation 1, to expect one to move higher on these conventional scales (and fast) may not be as realistic since these very, if not inherently, exclusive social structures may not pair well with many people's natures, tendencies, spirits.  However, to expect one to move higher (more quickly) in the (Wheaton) eco-scale (up to ~ level 6, and/but with dynamic descriptions of the levels, especially relating to the extent permacultural type ethos/activities became much more prevelant in society) seems to be more realistic/reasonable, as the (highly responsible, ideal) way of permaculture, though can express very differently in different contexts, is arguablly the most conforming/equitable/appropriate to most all of our various natures (and spirituality aside).

2) Speaking of having different natures/tendencies, another point is that some are more sensitive, or need to figure it out for themselves / get there on their own more, don't like to be told by others, etc..  For people (like a teacher/coach/trainer with tougher love/expectation) to have high expectations for one to advance as much and ASAP on the eco-scale, can definitely be seen with nuance, varying for all the unique individuals and their varying situations, environmental/living conditions, etc., but... it can be amazing what is possible with the right understandings, values, willingness, love, strength,  (sobered with how ingrained & overwhelming the conventional way of life is for many of us who may not be as resilient to needed changes).

The 1st step may be to make the good-intentioned, responsible government body of Mumbai realize how our more efficient, very-low emissions technology can be introduced (rather than what they are going for through mandated electricty or gas transitions basically), and then help them to build such rocket ovens, right?

Here is the informative 7 min. article-video - https://india.mongabay.com/video/2025/12/why-are-mumbais-bakeries-feeling-the-pinch-of-a-recent-change/

As far as my personal potential involvement here, I'm not too skilled or knowledgable myself, but at least willing... might anybody would want to work together on this?

i put together a career planning guide that has 3+ general paths (3rd path is DIRECTLY promoting permaculture):

1) (critical) research, reporting, (strategic) planning of human activities at a wholistic, systemic, big-picture, epidemiological level for awareness-raising, planning/action-implementation
2) observing/evaluating/assessing/inspecting and reporting of industrial (or too-commercial) activities/operations
3) designing and implementing / setting up "permaculture" alternatives

4) demolitioning industrial infrastructure

a general comment-insight on this guide is that the more societal support there is, the more likely is a more advanced path - path 4
(more detailed document guide with some specific examples is here)