My liberty on dwarfing stock croaked above the graft, but not before I got some seeds to try. Glad to see they are resistant to cedar apple rust, I forgot that, and I definitely saw it on a cedar tree this year. They are various heights, the tallest being about 7 ft. I am going to keep them trimmed, don’t want them blocking sun to my paw paws.
I have heard that a trained tree is more healthy than a grafted dwarf. So We will see.