I have as another poster calked them, a second generation Grand Shepherd that I got from Michelle. He has been the best dog I've ever had. I dont have livestock and he was raised on a fenced 1/2 acre with neighbors and kids in rhe neighborhood. He's friendly to kids and most dogs, great with his cats. He is protective in that he will put himself between me and anyone (esp men) he deems a stranger. He alert barks but not incessantly or bored-bark. I spend alot of time with him. He responds well to commands. On the Grand Shepherd website his picture is on the PAX page. He was a year old in the picture. He just turned 7. He blows his coat 2x a year and shed ALOT! But such an intelligent, loving dog!