Joseph Byrne

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Yes I reckon pure Mexican types are the best Lila  can apparently survive down to -10 but struggles to hold its fruits - it has been documented for 6 years or so by the millennial gardener in North Carolina (zone 8b/a).A similar humid climate which could be another issue with fruit development as Mexican types are native to fairly dry climates and with there thin skins are more susceptible to fungus diseases etc but probably not the biggest issue😂
I reckon as hass types are 61% Mexican genetically and are possibly pollinated with a Mexican race variety a chance seedling could be quite hardy.
A documented tree that is 4 years old in British Columbia survived a -14 freeze but I can’t rerify that.I will probably be trialling as many seedlings as I can- obviously any grafted plants I’m not going to risk especially when they are only a few years old or so.
I think the idea of grafting a and b types makes sense -how do you tell them apart other than the fact that the male and female parts of the flowers open at different times?
Yes I have looked it the heat requirements of avocados to produce flower buds and there is pretty much zero research which makes sense as we have quite a unique climate in which we don’t get very cold or hot - even if you were breeding avocados to survive hard freezes in say northern Florida heat in the growing season would never be an issue.
I suppose that will slowly be solved by climate change anyway so having an established cold hardy tree in ground would be an advantage in itself but from the scientific papers on avocados I have seen the only documented requirement for flower buds to be produced is interestingly a cool period in autumn or towards the end of the growing season and this is variable - Mexican cultivars struggle to produce well in really warm areas like the Caribbean because of this.
I suspect that the GDD requirement is also variable depending on cultivar and is one of the easier traits to breed - think of evergreen blueberries in south Florida and peach with ~ 250 chilling hours and naturally you would expect the requirement for the Mexican types to be lower as they developed in colder climates.
I don’t know of any pure Mexican trees in the uk that have flowered but hopefully you can test this theory.
Fruitwood Nursery I think it’s based in California shops budwood worldwide with a £70 charge for a phytosanitary certificate and a little more for shipping the sell about 10 different Mexican race types and restock in late autumn they currently have a good few still available but I’m not considering it for this spring I don’t have enough rootstocks -I would like to order some other scions form them aswell.
I think it’s quite possible and with breeding over time will become easier.
Really interested to see your trees development this year -the bacon looks very promising.
Kind regards Joseph

1 month ago
Yes I was wondering that I’m not sure £80 is a very good price for a Mexican race seedling.
I may just graft onto my own seedlings and then grow on in a greenhouse until it fruits and then use those seeds to plant outside as they may fair better.
Do you know anywhere that sells avocados taht may be slightly more tolerant of cold - Don’t they use fuerte/zutano/bacon to pollinate commercial hass groves.
Your in ground tree looks wonderful.
What varieties where you thinking of grafting onto it.
I suspect some varieties require less heat than others to flower.
Do you know a good source of budwood ( I don’t want to order from America this year as I would like to buy pawpaw and persimmon wood at the same time as it is so expensive.
I have planted lotus persimmon seeds for grafting next spring hopefully.
Planting a ‘vaniglia’ tree fairly soon so we shall see how that goes.
Maybe by 2030 you’ll be harvesting the most northern avocado Peter!
1 month ago
Seeing as I’m in rural Yorkshire a greenhouse is a good shout plantsforpresents will have grafted zutano plants in may do you know anywhere else that would sell.I will probably plant it in ground in the greenhouse and then experiment outside but with climate change you never know.
1 month ago
That’s good to know as scions are much easier to source than Mexican race seeds/seedlings
I reckon in 5 ish years it might be possible to grow an avocado in ground even pretty far north in England I think spring 2027 I will order some bud wood from america and gray onto seedlings
1 month ago
How much does the rootstock matter if the variety grafted onto it is cold hardy mexicola joey etc.
Most commercial avocados will be a cross of hass and fuerte/zutano so probably a decent rootstock
Where can budwood be sourced I know about the company in America but is anyone is uk/Europe selling budwood of the Mexican hardier varieties like mexicola
1 month ago