If you know the term PSP then you must also have already read Oehlers book the 50 dollar and up underground house. other than that Oehlers dvd's and the collection of posts on this forum are the only places i've seen psp mentioned. Rob Roy has a book "the Earth Sheltered House" that is somewhat useful (living roof and waterproofing at least) although his home is bermed not pit like you want.
I address this to SODCOTTAGE !!! For your information ! I only recently found this forum, I was looking and found mention of psp being a good system . At that time , I had no idea what it was other that water resistant . No one told me but I keep on reading threads and found the info and ordered the book . I use my name on all my internet useage ( I am nice unless provoked , I am not a smart butt) but I notice that you use a cover name and seem to be on the smart butt side . hmmmm ? why ?
I'm not sure what sodcottage has stated that can be interpreted to make him/her a "smart butt".
I've not read Oehlers book but I understand there is some good information there. However, I know someone who has built an underground home using Oehlers book. He did encounter one problem with the poly bagged pole bottoms. He did encounter water penetration and resultant rot after a few years. The problem became apparent when an interior door kept needing adjustment. It would stick as the rotting end slowly deteriorated and the wall got "shorter". It was repairable, but serves as a warning.
I mention this as one thing I have learned in the "normal" way of building things and life in the mountains of NM, is that water is relentless and wins almost all of the time. It is difficult to keep it out or away by brute force. It is always best to take steps to lead the water away to the outside somewhere, somehow. I have a distrust of the ability of most non treated woods to resist decay when the ends are buried in the ground. That may be just me.
Hello mnt.Don Miller, Thanks for the information . I think that I will use four stacks of 16 inch concrete blocks as load bearing main supports, and sealed pressure treated post for the other post .This is a long term option that should make for great support and strenght . Other than a change of post,I will keep fairly close to Mr. Mike O.'s P.S.P. method . I love the green Idea but I feel that sometimes we have to weigh the cost/value .I hope someone comes up with an enviromentally safe Green water proof wood treatment. We as a people need to strive to get new inovations into the peoples hands.Things to make life better,safer,cheaper while bypassing the corporations . People need to invent or figure out a thing and give it to everyone on the www....FREE ! Thanks, greggd
thanks for the apology greggd but none is needed. im sorry that you thought that i was a smart ass i did not mean to be one sincerely. the problem with the internet is that tones do not get conveyed properly. It is easy to misunderstand someone . Honestly I just wanted to help you and was confused because psp is a term that oehler coined and I assumed that you read his book but hadn't included that in your text.I also want to build a modified oehler type psp home myself and I was trying to suggest some info I had found useful. Anyway remember that everyone here is here because we share the same interests and if someone is an a** maybe you misunderstood them. also maybe I can't convey my thoughts easily to be understood by others I am realy a peaceful friendly guy. And my name is toby woodbury from wayland missouri so im not hiding anything
Thanks Sodgrass ! I thank you for accepting my apology . I have run into a few situations on the net where I got bullyed some and it was from people that did not use their real name . I percieved this wrong and jumped to the wrong conclusion . I am nornally real nice ( bad day ) which is no excuse . . On a postive note of friendship , I will tell you , I have did some papercrete, which is easy and really cool stuff.I have two roofs made with it , on out buildings . I think I will incorporate some papercrete as interior walls,etc. in my project. I am playing around with led lights ( I bought at harbor freight )cheap .I am thinking that useing leds and painting the interior white will be a cinch to light .I think the ( lights only ) system will cost around $200.00 . The system will use 2 units that have solar panels ,a big reflector led light and motion sensors $ 35.00 each and a trolling motor battery , wire,fuses,and about 10 led units @ 5.00 each. I got the Idea working out a lighted eyes scarecrow plan.Good luck with your project , I will be happy to share info ,bye, greggd
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