Joe Frank

OH EM GEE.

it's cheaper to replace a bulb that burns out than to burn an inefficient one.

toan


HUH? An inefficient one is the one that burns out often. I fail to see your point.

I will have to dissent.
This has absolutely nothing to do with what I am trying to get across.

But as a stand alone topic I think he is way off base as to what the economic realities are likely to be.
I hope and pray they are as he see's things. But I prefer to play the odds and the odds say that things
are going to be at least as bad as the so called "great depression".

Personally I plan for the worse and pray for the best. I am a realist. (I think)

H Ludi Tyler wrote:You seem to be the one complaining about having to work so hard, not me. You seem to be the one who doesn't understand that you don't have to work so hard.

I don't use tillers.

Hi Tyler!

I understand your point completely, but you missed mine -- because it has nothing to do with tillers.

I myself are part of the underground economy also.
You I think are missing the main point. That is even if you are as you say not working so hard.
You are still working much harder than you should have to because of the implications that I describe above.

In other words ... you are still IMHO aiding a lot of evil unless you venture to change the system.
This is a bit of a shift in topic but still relevant I think:
https://thingsyourlocalpaperwillnevertellyou.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/christians-need-to-be-resposible-for-their-actions/

You pay these taxes whether you know it or not even if you are totally in the barter economy.

Example: A tiller that would sell for $500 is sold for $700 because corporations can not and do not pay corporate taxes,
the consumer does. The person that buys it must earn approximately $1400 to buy it because half of his income is stolen
in largely hidden taxes.

Now when you barter for this used tiller you must pay let's say $500 for it. because of all the taxes that were paid before you got it.
Notice that this is the price that it should have sold for when new.

The scam continues and most people do not understand that they are serfs that work for the Federal Reserve for 3 months each year
even those that barter. They do not understand our economic system or economics.

If you do not understand this please watch
The money masters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXt1cayx0hs
or
secret of OZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkq2E8mswI

The Lightbulb Conspiracy: planned obsolescence: https://youtu.be/zdh7_PA8GZU

They are missing the main and most important point IMHO.

If one insists on things that last and you buy less you should also then have the option to work less to earn money to buy useless things
or it's all for naught.

Then if we are smart enough not to let governments steal our leisure time and increased productivity as increased taxes
one could could conceivably work just 3 to 6 months a year.

Think about it. I think we need a new film looking at this perspective.