randall gabriel

what do you mean by easement?

Does anyone know a good resource on finding land trust in a givin area?

Sorry everyone for not going into to much detail on here. I have little trust and value for this method of communication but I think it is a great tool to find people and then converse using other methods like Frieda Reid did on this forum. So thanks and thought that little disclaimer might be helpfull to some!

Those seem like really neat places we have thought about out of the country quite a bit but for family reasons we have decided to stay close to home thats why we are looking for places in between the ozarks and the appellations. and I am originally from texas and im haveing a hard time with indiana winters... ha so im not sure how canada would have worked out anyway... maybe mexico! well thanks for the info im going to contact the South Knowlesville Community Land Trust to see how they set up the land trust because im really intrested in that sort of thing!

ya i have a problem sometimes when posting if you ctrl+C your post besfore submitting you can paste it in a new one if the one you where trying to send doesnt work. it sort of a fail safe but thaks for your efforts!

i feel like the oven would be just like the heat hitting the top of the 50 gal barrel cept instead for being forced downwards the heat would continue to rise creating more of a pull that could push the exhast potentially farther...

So I had this idea and knew i wouldnt be able to explain it well so i said hey ill just draw it on paint... well I soon figured I hate digital drawing with a passion! well i hope the drawing gets my point across. My idea was to try to add an oven to the rocket stove principle and I just wanted feedback on the best ways to experiment with that. this drawing is by no means to scale but i got as close as I could... So my thought is if the heat from the heat riser hits a metal box with a door on the front. the heat would them pass by 5 of the 6 sides of the box then out to the exhaust. I just wanted to see peoples feed back on the hot water idea as well by useing thermosyphoning. OK now tell me everywhere i might run into problems AND!!! how to fix them! thanks!

Touche' Ha ya I would want to know the same... Well I spoke for the group in broad terms mostly because the ways and to what degree vary from person to person on how to live a self sustaining life. For me I would like to remove myself from the broken ecomonic and goverment systems COMPLETELY! The ways I can imagine today is to either make or trade all good I might need or do with out. Ways in which I am pursuing this is by learning everything about everything that I can. I hope to facilitate a forest garden intigrated with animals to sustain my diet. I hope to build my own house for little or no money out of available resources like for example cob, timber and thatch. I hope to either make hydroelectric energy or do without. I hope to have a supportive community of people to share life with. Over all do everything within my power to live at peace with the earth and everyone in it! I have pursued the knowledge to do so through formal and informal training and reading everything I can that has the possibility of helping along the way. I have had formal training in natural medicines, cob, permaculture gardening, food preservation, primitive skills of all sorts and rocket stoves. My favorite books in order of improtance to me is Edible Forest Gardens, Sepp Holzers Permaculture, all of Fukuoka's books, Gias Garden and THE Permaculture Design Manual. I have not taken a PDC course YET... I am in the process/ waiting till the course I want happens this year (it was canceled last...) and I am to picky to just take a random one... I hope to then take the advanced course and teach one day! I spent 6 months in a small village in Mozambique Africa at http://kujilana.org/mgk-resources a localy owned and operated resource center. I built alot of loraina/rocket stoves, a bread oven and a house out of cob for a neighboring chief who lost his in the previous rainy season. I tended to all of thier animals at one time or another including rabbits, turkeys, chickens, goats, sheep, ducks, guineas, and dairy. We set up many humanure systems and had a large garden mostly propigating medicinal plants but alot of produce too! I did alot of other stuff to and it was an overall fromative experiance! I am currently working a garden with my friends and sell at the local farmers market. I am also working or worked with a local orchard, a metal sculpter and I make barnwood furniture and such and sell it out of a window front in town. We have a goat for milk and chickens because thats all the land lord would allow... I hunt with a bow I made and that pretty much sums up what I've been up to and hope to do. I want all of this for my life and know I can't do it alone so here lays my predicament on how to make all this actually happen... Well let me know if I can expand on anything and I will get my friends to write as well!

I would go with K.I.S.S. on this one and just coil copper around the 55 gal barrel and let it thermosiphon into an insulated holding tank. heat your house and heat your water! and in the summer do the same except with the solar hot water heater. i have a black hose in a glass box on my roof and its been a jewel!

My partner and I and 2 other couples are looking for opportunities to pursue like finding land to share creatively. We are currently renting 26 acres in Indiana to practice sustainable lifestyles and learn form mentors here. It has been great and extremely productive but we are looking to settle somewhere and be rooted. We are looking to remove ourselves from the enslaving systems in America and find creative ways to counter them. We are all passionately pursuing sustainable practices such as self relient communities of people because we realize that even with 6 people we can not be TOTALLY sustainable with out help from others. We hope to find land, build houses out of cob and such, create our own energy and supply our daily consumed resources. There are some obstacles though, most of us have student loans... So basically we are looking for someone who owns alot of land and would like to share with us and be shared with! There are alot of options others have tried to accomplish this. We could do a rent to own on little parcels of land or create a LLC or a 501 C3 or any idea anyone might have! We are looking to move to Arkansas, Tennesse, Kentucky or Missouri area and would love hear about any opportunities anyone knows about for this area! Or any questions in general so please post or PM me if you are looking for something similar or know someone who is!

Thanks

Randall