Hi from France,
sorry for not taking the time to read the whole thread, I have to leave soon and want to answer now. I have a question.
-Geoff, do you know any commercial farm that managed the conversion from conventional agriculture, with the classical situation we have here in France in theses farms (debt level, heavy machinery already bought etc.), to permaculture without any income from workshops ? In France or anywhere in the world. With the acountings to prove it.
The real question is : is permaculture only a leisure for those who can afford it or is it a real solution for everyone and in particular those who work in dirt and only in it ? Is it viable economically today with only production income ? I insist about the conversion situation because this situation is the most common one in farms today in France. Starting from nothing is easier, you don't (yet) have any professionnal debts.
Once I asked this in France and the answer was : these farmers can die. What a solution
Maxime Leloup
