Bobby Eshleman wrote:A problem with this process seems to be that the systems thinking of permaculture requires a language that is unrelatable to most people. If you a person who likes open discussion, how do you argue for permaculture? Why not conventional organic gardening?
I think that an inclusive approach is probably the best place to start. For example, any kind of organic gardening that a person does is great and really deserves that credit.
So many ways as a 1 week old "newbie" PC adventurer that I should be able to answer "how" you could argue for PC, as I have so much to learn! I have what, 40+ years of learning to do?? lol However, a couple of things I can say that I have hopefully learned correctly in my readings is that PC is really a mixture of many "earth friendly" techniques including organic, and more
. To me, the difference I have discovered in my 1 week journey of learning, is that PC is applying the knowledge of many of these practices, and adding more emphasis on the ethics of a person, family, community and their duty/responsibilities in life. However, for me, the sad part of that is that all in all, I don't find many people with "good ethics"..
I think that what has attracted me, is that PC includes a bit of many "methods" (all great), but the fundamentals (principals and ethics) of PC has managed to include organic, tree hugging, animal lover, ecosystems/preservation of the earth, etc. AND it expresses the importance of balance of all of these, and the result is SELF MAINTAINING systems that fulfill "all" of the aforementioned
I still have questions about organic, and many other practices, but the combination of many practices is how I "currently" see PC.
This past garden season I remember being in a local feed n seed store. There was a young guy in there buying seed, etc just as I was. I rarely go out, so when I do, I usually strike up a conversation. This person told me they have an organic farm. I think about that now, and wonder.. What "really" does organic mean? If I buy "seeds" that I am not SURE are organic, but follow all of the other organic "requirements" (US) does that mean that the fruit/veggie I produce is organic?? Even if I have no clue if the seed I planted was?? On the other hand, I read a post here the other day that said PC is more about wildlife and ecosystems over "human" needs. Hum, that just didn't fit with my thoughts of what I have learned PC is. I see it as BALANCE... I am a newbie n thereby a dumb ass I suppose..
I am hoping that PC is more about an actual "process of applying many processes", which includes all of the things that will make our world a better place, NOW and in the future