Lucio Cavalca

Hi guys,

here in Parma (Italy) we started our project.

We don't want to call it guerrilla gardening any more, because it is becoming much more.

I think we are planning to create a new free system opposite to economical system: ok ok just thinking at the moment, but probably we will have a big crisis soon here, and we need to start to grown up our food all together. that's why we are not doing guerrilla but planning a new system.

We have planted 49 trees at the moment and we have also a website

www.fruttortiparma.it

but take a look at the map, you can see pictures and what we have planted too http://www.fruttortiparma.it/webmap/index.html

regards
Lucio

Hi,
We are planning to create some fruit guildes around young fruit trees we just planted (1 to 3 years old). We will be following the schema proposed by Toby Hemenway in his Gaia’s Garden book and replicated by many permaculturists (example:

http://kitsaptilth.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/fruit-tree-guild2.jpg)
We have two questions:

1) Shall we already build the guild considering the drip line at maturity or should we create it more proportional to the current size of the tree?

2) I am thinking to surround the guild area around the tree with stones and/or wooden boards to minimize stepping and mark the “cultivated” area (it is a public area) but how to best do this?
We still need to reach the tree for pruning (yes we are considering the no pruning option but that is another post ☺) and harvesting (though production will be minimal the first years). Also let’s assume the answer to point one comes out with a quite large guild (2.5 meters around the trunk?) this will force us stepping in for planting and harvesting the guild plants (eg. beans, fennel). Shall we put boards or flat stones inside the guild for stepping? Do you have any design suggestion?

Thanks a lot.

thank you John for answering, we would like to plant only local fruit trees by seeds but at the moment it is not possible

we have bought all our trees in a nursery specialized in local old fruit trees, but it is all with rootstock and already pruned.

we are going to plant a lot of trees and prune needs prune, it would be a lot of work that we can't do.

so we are going to plan our public nursery with trees by seeds, but it is necessary a lot of time, and I don't know if we will have little trees or not...

Hi guys, we are planting fruit trees in hurban public area, in order to let people take fruits by themself.

this is our project www.fruttortiparma.it

We trained ourself in modern training courses, in which they teach to prune in order to keep trees short and healty with a good production of fruits; but we would like to follow permaculture system.

I ask to myself if a not pruned cherry or apple or whatelse tree will grow too much and harvest will only possible with stairs and too high to harvest for normal citizen without special tools.

What do you think about?

thanks for helping

Hi guys, this is my first post. I'm Lucio from Parma Italy and I have recently joined tranistion town group.

Our plan is very big, to give "food sovereignty" (hope this translation is correct) to our city and we just started to create an urban orchard in a public area without asking and without any permission.
We are at the beginning, and at the moment we have planted 11 fruit trees in an external district. Now we have a bit of stop because we are going to follow training course about fruit trees, but we will re-start to plant soon other trees.

Now we are going to ask to our comunication group to support us with information for citizens, a website with our plan, map of the trees and so on... this is very important because we need people understand what we are doing, support us, and start to take care of those trees.

During the spring we will start also a veggies garden between those trees.... but we think orchard is the first step.

I will let you know