Patricia Sparrow

Thank you for your responses so far. I looked at the Garry Oak (thank you!) resources and while we're a different species here (Quercus lobata, California Valley White Oak), our area may be suitable to huckleberries which are part of the Garry Oak ecosystem -- I have to read more. Emma, Hawthorn wasn't even on my radar until I began looking at Martin Crawford's Creating a Forest Garden. He mentions Hawthorn grows anywhere and suggests it as rootstock for Medlar. I don't know that eitherMedlar or a tasty variety of Hawthorn is common here in the US, so it may be a bit of an adventure tracking them down. Thank goodness for the internet!

Yes, I think the raised bed will allow me to cheat a bit and plant things that otherwise would not be possible. We do get down to the low 20s here a few times during the year, and I'd like to see if I can get a few ramps (wild leek) to grow in one of the raised beds. Other alliums love it here!

Emma, best of luck with your fruit trees. We have tried cherry here several times but the late frosts we get did them in. Too bad, I love cherries. We're trying plum, apple and pear in out front yard which is still wet in the spring but not under water. Fingers crossed.
Please keep ideas coming!

Let's see if the files I attached stick. This area can be under an inch or two of water in the mid winter to mid spring, and spots are soggy till late spring/early summer. The raised bed is maybe a foot and a half high and is shady. I was thinking goldenseal would love it here, but I'd want to supplement with water in the late summer. The back (this area) is too wet for raspberries, I'm planning them up front where the ground is a little higher and we have more sun.

I have an acre that is valley oak and ash. It used to have abundant himalayan blackberry (which grows like a weed here) and poison oak which we have cleared. (There is still abundant himalayan blackberry -- I didn't eradicate it.) The area is naturally sub-irrigated, and downright waterlogged ("high water table" is an understatement) during late winter through spring. We generally have no rain between June and October. Soil is clayey loam, with some gravel in areas. The blackberry grew like crazy, as does poison oak. Dock, plantain, and chicory are abundant. We are zone 8. Summer temps are frequently in the 90s or higher during the day but cool down every night. Temperatures can swing 50 degrees in a day.

I have created a couple of raised areas and filled them with compost. I'd like to add some fruits/berries either on the "floor" of the forest or in the slightly raised beds. Areas range from deeper shade to sunny.

I was wondering if you had suggestions of things to try. I'd like to try a few pawpaws in one of the beds. Would salal be possible on the forest floor? Were do have hot summers, but under the trees it is somewhat cooler, are there gooseberries or currents than might endure our summers? Can they take the waterlogged soil or would the beds be better? Any suggestions on understory, vining or groundcover edibles that agree with springtime wet, shady conditions would be appreciated. It doesn't just have to be "people-edibles," I have rabbits and free ranging chickens I'd like to provide more food for, as well.

Wet shade. Is it impossible?