Thanks Julia, and thanks to others.
I have gone to the link, have not bought books. I suck at reading books for info, but hands-on...I love it. And I pay for it, not a freeloader, I've paid to have hands on classes and I get it. I read..I fall asleep:) I am new to this forum (this is my second post) so if I am in the wrong spot or if you have suggestions on where to go, I am all ears. Thanks again, Kirt