Sarah Mae

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SE New Brunswick Canada, Zone 5a
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Well, I agree that there are more and less beneficial ways of dealing with humanure. We used a bucket toilet with everything mixed together for 7 people and then fully composted in piles. It seemed to work just fine. Its not quite as good as being nomadic and spreading it around in little individual piles, but better than some other ways. We do our best. =) Since we are not nomadic, this system seems most beneficial to me for us, although presently we are in town and using a water toilet, which I would absolutely deem a cascade of gratuitous wastage. The worst. For sure.

I wasnt replying directly to your original post, though, so I dont have any contention with the info you shared. I was just joining the discussion with a quip, really. A related thought in support of all of us finding solutions to make the best use of our internally processed food stuffs when they emerge from our part of the cycle. =)
5 years ago

Xisca Nicolas wrote:"Waste" means that you loose it or that it cannot be used efficiently.
It seems that "naturally-generated organic matter" can be a waste, if the transformation does not provide what we want but other side products such as nitrates...
If what is "naturally-generated" is not available to plants or goes into the underground water table, then it is a waste, even if it looks like nice soil.
If some invisible by-products accelerate the decomposition of the organic matter, thus giving the appearance of a big nice boost to the plants, then not only this is a waste, but this is armful.



Yup. That was my point.
5 years ago
I think the term *waste* should only be used to indicate inefficient use. Clearly naturally-generated organic matter itself can never be waste, though it is sadly most often wasted in North America...
5 years ago

Jocelyn Campbell wrote:

Sarah Mae wrote: I should probably clarify that I was trying to provide a concrete and yet supportive example of a tiny piece of Paul's vision for people who might be concerned about falling into a path that they feel is a bit "less than" some other paths.




I agree that theres no such thing as a less-than path. It took me a while to figure that out, admittedly, especially when I felt like my own path didnt measure up to an impossible-for-me standard. I love this forum and the people who share here inspire me. I have been reading here for years, but only recently joined as I make my second go of living on the land, first time solo. So my personal irony is that my own path is presently asking of me that I do it all, after coming to a place where I no longer considered that necessary.... Ah, life. Im sure thats why Pauls post caught my attention.

5 years ago
Thank you for that Jocelyn. And YES! I think *people space nurturing* is an excellent term to describe what I meant. I know Paul wants this sort of person involved as well, I just thought that it is interesting how when I thought of the sort of meandering, figuring out sort of path he described, it is just like me, only for the very opposite reason than disconnection. On the other hand, there are definitely people in that situation, no doubt. Its just funny how two completely opposite perspectives can yield what looks on the surface to be exactly the same, but isnt really.
5 years ago
This post has been on my mind. I read it and couldnt figure out at first what I felt about it, just that it got stuck in my brain. I just figured it out.

I know what my passion is, absolutely, and because that passion is so integral to life itself, I probably look similar to the disconnected person you described, only I am very connected. I live and feel and experience my whole life through relationships- of all kinds, that is. So, all of the things that I do (livestock tending/raising, gardening, building, singing, dancing, playing ukulele, making art, designing and organising and planning for future and present homesteading, home educating, self-educating, lots of food prep and traditional/paleo cooking, etc...) are just vehicles for love, for devotion and expression for what is ultimate for me- relationships. I suppose that there is a difference between the goal-oriented, freedom-seeking, purpose-driven person (usually men, but not always, obviously), and people like me, who really tried all of that for a long time, and found that freedom isnt enough (which is funny thing to say because freedom never is *enough*, being an emptying sort of thing), unless you consider that freedom isnt personally enough when there is another, higher, priority, like fulfillment. For some, completion and the freedom that brings, is first and foremost- top priority-, but for me, it is second to the abundance of fulfillment, and I find that fulfillment personally in relationship with others (and myself of course).

So, I meander through the doings, trying this and that, but not because I am lost or unsure of what I want. I know what I want, absolutely, but the doings, which I enjoy thoroughly and genuinely love (!), are really humbly in service to that higher priority of mine, which means that they are a means, and not ever going to come first, and certainly never going to be my first passion in life. All of that said, it is because of my first love, to live through relationships, that I am diligent in my skills-acquisition and and work. I want to give my best to the people I love, not holding back, but full-on, because I feel so good about myself and my life when I do that, and I feel bad when the doings occasionally winnow their way into first place. For a goal/purpose/mission-oriented person, this may seem lazy or like nonsense, to put accomplishment so much lower relative to relationships, but it really isnt. I had to find my way to this, from that other way, finding it wanting and inauthentic for me, though I have loads (immense respect) of appreciation for the other way, and for those people whose authentic path is that way.

I dont mean to be excluding anyone, which is why I am careful to be mostly non-gender-specific, but it is usually the men in my life who have found goal and freedom-seeking to be authentic paths, and it is a struggle for the women, who often get rigid and cold and unfulfilled in trying to exist in that role. I was one of those, but having surrendered to my authentic path and passion makes me feel soft and vulnerable and completely not interested in goals or accomplishments at all. And I feel really great this way. In my former path, I gained a lot of skills, and I use them now, of course. But, it was a hard road, and I feel so relieved to live this way now. I will never have an impressive resume or likely be called first to a build or design-conference, even though I can do those things, because I would rather call everyone over for a party and be remembered for how people felt when we were together, rather than how impressed they were with what I did. I dont think or feel that this is universal or better than the other way. It is just the way I am, and there is so much room for the other impressive-doings sort of people (I tend to really enjoy, worship, and love the male versions of these a lot a lot... to a fault).

So, I wanted to share because I felt like there was room for dissent in the most compassionate way from the no doubt unintended implications of the original post. And I know that this is a thin representation of the much more wholistic way that I experience my life, and feel in it, but it is probably as good as it gets for words in place of in-person interaction.

Thank you for the prompt to examine and clarify my own perspective, Paul. I always enjoy that. Even when I dont.
5 years ago
Yes, and further to both comments, that I am saving tin cans for a roof is absolutely evidence for how affordable that rubber is to me presently...
5 years ago
Hi Andrew. I dont know if it works. I have it bookmarked because I have been collecting (real) tin cans for the past six months to make tin tiles for a roof- probably of an outbuilding. This tin is coated, but it will eventually lose that coating, I am sure, so I had thought of using this product when it becomes necessary. The added benefit is that I could use the roof for rainwater catchment. So, if you try it, you can let us all know if it works! Haha.
5 years ago
Here is a site that sells it in large-ish quantity http://www.realmilkpaint.com/oil.html

From the site, their raw tung oil has no dryers or solvents, and unlike linseed oil, it will not mould, discolour, or crackle (it remains slightly elastic). I dislike the strong smell of linseed oil, and tung oil has zero vocs, is slightly nutty, and apparently not unpleasant. It can be applied indoors and outdoors on surfaces subject to the elements.

This is going to coat my earthen and wooden floors, and all of my built-in wooden furniture (and wooden dishes/boards).

I also like the milk paint, though I may wait until I have a chicken butcher and do the old-fashioned barn red made with milk and blood, for the out-buildings...

All in good time.
5 years ago