Joshua Myrvaagnes wrote:The cooperation vs. watching out for ignobility conversation seems to be apples to oranges. With nature/non-human elements, there's no problem with anticooperative elements. They're always both self-interested and providing yields to the system. Only humans have a unique ability to be anticooperative.
In the big picture, it's a learned behavior rather than an innate one. I believe people are good at heart, but that doesn't mean I trust most people off the bat--they have to build that trust with me.
We also haven't had education in cooperation. There is one MBA program that includes cooperation in its degree options, according to Carl Ratner, one on the planet. Cooperative cultures around the world have been attacked and trust has been broken. It can be rebuilt, though, using slow and small solutions and recognizing the problem as the solution.
Ben Zumeta wrote:Regarding how Paul and Allen would manage 1million acres of western Oregon timber land, points about Northwest coniferous forest ecology and hydrology were at times quite inaccurate by my understanding of the current science (they did only have 30min prep), but many of the points in this podcast were great. I have always particularly liked Paul's main idea of moving many permies onto the land so it has more stewards/acre. Done well, this infusion of beneficial keystone species (permies) would be a vast improvement compared to the ridiculously low current # of Forest Service employees/acre. Being so stretched thin is what seems to prompt many unsustainable and ecologically destructive practices like herbicide spraying, monoculture, and poor fire management. I would bet this is similar on private forest lands, but should admit I know a lot less about current private practices (often kept private as proprietary) than those used in public land management.
I think it is important to note how I should grant Allen and Paul the benefit of the doubt and assume they are talking about plots with little to no old-growth left, and that they would preserve any truly ancient forests and the endemic soil species (often endemics are found in each old growth tree), unmatched carbon sequestration, water retention, fire resistance, and sanctuary they provide.
Lina Joana wrote:Any chance Allan could provide the reference for the interspecies quorum sensing/ increased phytonutrients in polycultures? That is super exciting!
Joshua Rimmer wrote:
Josiah Kobernik wrote:I calculated that the total weight of the roof with three feet of soil soaking wet above the membrane is 12,660 lbs.
Each of the 8, 8 inch posts can support more than 22,000 lbs. So that's cool.
Could we see your calculations, Josiah? The numbers I find say wet soil averages 3000 lbs per cubic yard. If I recall the greenhouse dimensions correctly, 10 foot by 9 foot, 90 square feet times 3 feet deep =270 cubic feet. 27- cubic feet divided by 27 cubic feet in a cubic yard = 10 cubic yards. 10 yards times 3000 equals 30,000 lbs. You still have a HUGE excess load capacity!
Edited for my atrocious spelling!
Jeremy Allen wrote:Alan, Chad, thanks for the replies. I was trying to keep it generic so it'd be more helpful to others looking for starter guides on this. But maybe it's more helpful to be more specific about my situation?
Firstly, Alan, can you talk more about your Ecological Solar Design course? What are the skills taught to a non-electrician like myself?
Anyway, my situation is that I am moving into an off-grid yurt in the coming months. It would cost >$80k to have power brought in, and then I'd get the pleasure of a monthly power bill and the company assuming ownership of all of the equipment I'd need to install to get the power to my yurt (and future house) site. So off-grid just made a ton more sense.
I already have most of the equipment. I got a killer deal on the Clean Energy Storage Powergrid PG11, here's the stat sheet. It contains the AIMS 8kW Power Inverter Charger, the Outback FlexMAX 80, and the Nuvation NUV300 battery controller. It's supposed to be "plug and play" but I don't have the skills to know the minutia required. I also got a crazy good deal on Canadian 275w solar panels, so have 20 of those. I don't have anything to connect the panels to the inverter/charge controller. I see the schematic in the Powergrid instructions, but wanted to make sure I was doing everything properly (as you pointed out, small mistakes can be big problems).
I have a southern exposed area that's close to the yurt for the panels. I ultimately want some type of pole mount, since I could more easily shed the snow and change the angle to catch the sun in winter better.
Hmm, what else?
I will reach out to the local contractor who does off-grid systems, but felt like I had most of the work done and just needed to "plug it all together." Of course, I'm not so naive to think that's really all I need to do... :)
Thanks for your, and anyone else's, advice. Trying to save money, but like not exploding.
Julio Budreaux wrote:Paul and Alan, welcome! I would be super excited to win a slot in your next PDC course. I'm slowly (aren't we all?) putting together a permaculture Paw Paw orchard outside of Hot Springs, Arkansas. I've got three planted as tests and they've done well over the past year, so I now have another 8 ready to go into the ground this year and 28 seedlings planted in RootMakerII pots. My plan is to have more than 80 trees in the ground by the fall of 2020!
Anyway, welcome again and good luck to everybody in the drawing!
J Davis wrote:Fascinating thread.
As bio/chemical toxins have become prevalent, the need to incorporate detox protocols into daily routines has become evident.
It seems that as emf increases, our need for adaptogens (and or cannaboids) may likewise become evident.
Does anyone have actual data on how earth shelters block or mitigate emf?
Charlotte Tessadri wrote:I think practicing permaculture is a great way to awaken the inner scientist in people, but I am not very strict with the word scientist. For me a scientist definitely is a person who wants to free themselves from the norms to discover the truth beyond the known. Old paradigms have to be changed or thrown out for something new to come. If you research within a discipline you already are caught in the concepts of that discipline, meaning you're already nit thinking freely, because the perspective you're researching from has been taught to you from someone else, who has also taken over concepts from another person.
Thus a scientist who has studied in his field for many years might not be as free as someone who has never studied anything before.
And I think to really observe something, perceive it purely it is better to have a free mind rather than a mind stuffed with various concepts.
Anyway: Alan, thank you for the response about the education techniques from the San people. I'm very fascinated now and I'm wondering why you have such a deep knowledge in that field. Did you live with them for some time?