Scott Reid wrote:This has been an awesome read.
I am in a similar situation with little in the way of resources/cash and with debt I am trying to get rid of.
Gives me hope that my plans at least have a chance of working.
In the area I live in there is a ton of land available.
Some of it easily attainable (5-10 acre lots @$250 down/$250 month) but you are paying a premium per acre (nearly $10k/acre).
There are other plots of varying size that come up for sale at better prices but not always a owner financed situation which is what we need.
My goal, for whatever land we buy, will be to have it paid off within a 5-6 year period.
So still looking, praying and hoping.
Steve Taylor wrote:
Travis Schultz wrote:
Peter, I know where your coming from as I've had animals on leased farm land in the past. And for me personally it's not worth it at the current time, please let me explain why.
through the life of the animal I am inevitably working, doing chores, to some extent, to keep it happy and alive.
I can help the neighbor who has chickens by buying her eggs, and the other neighbor who has grass fed beef by buying his beef, also there is raw milk near me that I can turn into all the wonderful dairy products, all while building community and supporting my neighbors.
Now for the bulk of my meat, is venison and squirrel. They raise themselves without fencing, are not always as dependant as livestock, but literally cost me nothing.
Hey Travis, I'm in agreement in you here. It's my opinion everyone starting out should really think through all aspects of animal ownership. They can really set you back from establishing a profitable farm in the beginning. Which is hard enough without heart break and financial losses associated with animal loss or injury.
Thanks for sharing Travis and best of luck to you in Michigan. It's a beautiful state and dispute being rivals from Ohio we are state neighbors. Glad to see practical permaculture start ups relatively close by.
Maybe we can swap perienniels in the future, or seeds if your interested. I will be starting up a plant and seed exchange In the Akron Area this year.
Me Remington wrote:Congratulations! This is an interesting book that I found at my public library:
The book details out how to create a farm for profit (well, a really small profit). It is written by a former Wall St. broker, now full time farmer.
I agree with you that you should wait a year before making large plant investments. We've been on our land for four years and have barely planted any long term items. Thank goodness we waited. Each year has brought a new set of lessons in how this land works and the multiple facets of our climate (we live in Maine). This summer will mark the first major investment into zone two of our 5 acres.
We also had to wait because we have to spend a lot of cash in deer deterrents. I've lost 80 percent of my garden every year to deer. This may be an issue for you too. It is a shame to plant such nice, native trees only to have them chewed to the root by deer.
Anyway, congratulations on taking the first step!