Tom Quinn

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10 years ago

Laylah Sullivan wrote:I am just beginning my research on masonry heaters. Has anyone had experience in eastern WA (specifically Whitman County) of getting these approved?



Hi Laylah, My name is Tom and I live over near Twin Falls, Idaho (not too far away). I'm building a medium sized house. I've decided to build a masonry heater to heat this house. Hopefully next year I will build the heater (foundation done so far). Here is what I've learned/done so far,

* The masonry heater's association www.mha-net.org has the most information on masonry heaters.
* I presented my house plans and the masonry heater building plans I obtained from the MHA to the county building department.
* I got the ok to build a masonry heater from the plans however the county instructed me I needed to show them how I was going to support such a heavy thing (up to 12,000 pounds) in the house.
* I'm building a concrete slab - 4" thick - and where the masonry heater sits the slab will be 10" thick with reinforcement. The county was good with this.
* I'm going with a smaller masonry heater, should weigh 5 or 6,000 pounds.

A masonry heater is safer than a fireplace or a RMH because the fire is enclosed. It is safer than a wood stove because it is much thicker with and inner layer of fire brick and an outer layer of brick or rock. And a MH only requires one or two 2 hour fires a day instead of 24/7 burning of wood like a wood stove.

If you are building a new house you will need to have a concrete slab or footing where the MH is going. I've seen where metal braces/supports have been used, too. I've been figuring out how to build a MH for about $800 - that is a 100% functional MH. The way I am saving $$ is,

* Building a smaller contraflow style MH (2'x3'x6.5') which will require less materials (about 60% less material than the large contraflow MH). Reasoning? - My house is passive solar and well insulated so this smaller heater should be fine although in the winter I may need to fire it twice a day.
* Using a large cast iron fireplace clean-out door for the masonry heater door - my cost $43. It is 100% functional but no you won't be able to see the fire. The door has a 12" x 12" opening (big enough). A cheap masonry heater door with glass is $600 and expensive ones are $2000.
* Outer material - by flexible here. Free river rock of the proper shape and size work fine (no sand stone, granite types are good). Or reclaimed brick works good. I've gathered reclaimed brick for $20 and for free. I went to a rock quarry and for $20 they let me pick through there discard pile of stone. Stones in the 1 to 4 brick size that are 3" to 5" thick are ideal - I found lots of these. The quarries commonly discard this size for being too small. The stones are nice with at least 2 straight edges and flashy colors.

Fire brick is a must and unless you can find it used and clean you will have to shell out $200 to $300 for it. And you will need a bucket or 2 of mortar (~$50/bucket), and a couple bags of refractory cement ($50/bag). There are a few others little parts needed like clean-out doors and an air inlet but that is most of it. Of course there is a lot of physical work collecting stones/bricks. And It may take some time to build. But a masonry heater that is well constructed is a very good (the best in my opinion) way to burn firewood. I hope I've helped!

10 years ago

Paula Crawwford wrote:For those in Idaho. Are you getting a permit? I'm trying to get a permit for one in Canyon County and they have no idea what I'm talking about.



Paula are you looking for a building permit for a masonry heater or a rocket mass stove?
10 years ago

Alan Mikoleit wrote:I don't have the floor space for a RMH bench and would like to build a masonry heater as simple and cheap as possible. I don't want to build the whole flue out of fire bricks if it's not really needed. Can I use regular cinder block bricks with holes in them or the cast fireplace chimney flue sections? How far down the flue line from the burner can those be used due to heat? thanks Alan



Alan, are you still going to build a masonry heater? I live by Twin Falls, Idaho, and I am building a small house and am going to build a masonry heater, too. I've been studying up on how to build a masonry heater "as simple and cheap as possible". I've learned some things. Fire brick must be used in areas that get hot (like the firebox), but regular brick can be used in areas that get warm, only (like under the firebox).

I've got most of the parts I need - fire bricks, a door, a grate, 2 clean-out doors, air grate/door, bags of refractory cement, and a couple buckets of refractory mortar. I still need a damper. I've been reading and asking masonry builders questions for the last year or two.

The door for a masonry heater can be expensive $400-$2000 but one could use a large clean-out door (15"x 15" outer dimensions) for a door (less than $100). I got super duty fire brick via an auction and saved on these. Where you are you should be able to get beautiful free rock for the outside of the heater (river rock looks awesome).

I haven't been focused on the flue yet but mainly the heater. I purchased the plans from the masonry heater association. I'm going to build a medium sized contraflow heater, going for simplicity - no bake oven, no bench, just the heater. P. Mason



11 years ago